Does the CFI ride count towards your BFR?

Can't get a clear cut answer from anyone on this....
Got my CFI last may, does my 24 calendar months start on that date til
when I need a BFR?
Or would I have to go back to my Multi Training for a starting date

On Wed, 12 May 2004 22:54:52 -0400, BoDEAN wrote:

Can't get a clear cut answer from anyone on this....
Got my CFI last may, does my 24 calendar months start on that date til
when I need a BFR?
Or would I have to go back to my Multi Training for a starting date



I used it as my BFR when I got it, and then used my Double I when I
got that.

Issuance of any Certificate or Rating is what qualifies you, and a CFI
ride results in the issuance of a Certificate.

HTH.
z

Got my CFI last may, does my 24 calendar months start on that date
til when I need a BFR?

Technically, no, because only checkrides for PILOT certificates count.

The FAQs say you should get the examiner on a CFI ride to sign you off
on a Flight Review (not BFR) in order to get credit for it. Some
people here have reported, however, that some examiners may not do
that because they are not supposed to instruct.

Greg Esres wrote:
Got my CFI last may, does my 24 calendar months start on that date
til when I need a BFR?

Technically, no, because only checkrides for PILOT certificates count.

The FARs do not says that, nor does AOPA's legal department.

Hilton

The FARs do not says that, nor does AOPA's legal department.

Yes, the FARs do, as noted below. It says "pilot certificate", not
"any certificate" as AOPA says.

61.56
....
(d) A person who has, within the period specified in paragraph (c) of
this section, passed a pilot proficiency check conducted by an
examiner, an approved pilot check airman, or a U.S. Armed Force, for a
PILOT certificate, rating, or operating privilege need not accomplish
the flight review required by this section

"Greg Esres" wrote in message
...
The FARs do not says that, nor does AOPA's legal department.

Yes, the FARs do, as noted below. It says "pilot certificate", not
"any certificate" as AOPA says.

61.56
...
(d) A person who has, within the period specified in paragraph (c) of
this section, passed a pilot proficiency check conducted by an
examiner, an approved pilot check airman, or a U.S. Armed Force, for a
PILOT certificate, rating, or operating privilege need not accomplish
the flight review required by this section

Please note that right after Pilot certificate, is says , rating, is not
the a rating.

John

Please note that right after Pilot certificate, is says , rating, is
not the a rating.

I don't understand what you said.

On Thu, 13 May 2004 06:14:01 GMT, "J.M. Farrington"
wrote:

Please note that right after Pilot certificate, is says , rating, is not
the a rating.

No. It is a certificate, but not a Pilot Certificate.


Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA)

On Thu, 13 May 2004 05:24:46 GMT, Greg Esres
wrote:

The FARs do not says that, nor does AOPA's legal department.

Yes, the FARs do, as noted below. It says "pilot certificate", not
"any certificate" as AOPA says.

61.56
...
(d) A person who has, within the period specified in paragraph (c) of
this section, passed a pilot proficiency check conducted by an
examiner, an approved pilot check airman, or a U.S. Armed Force, for a
PILOT certificate, rating, or operating privilege need not accomplish
the flight review required by this section



Given the fine line between certificate and pilot certificate. I do
believe you are still legal according to this reg. After pilot
certificate it states "rating, or operating privilege." A CFI is not
a rating, but is an additional privilege so if you are looking for a
fine line technicality you have it within the constructs of 61.56(d).

There is also something called the spirit of the law which plays
heavily in decisions made by courts where an issue is raised over such
a minute detail. The spirit of this law appears to encompass all
ratings/certificates so you really don't have a problem.

As others have said...If you are worried about it have the guy who
signed you off for the ride give you a BFR, I doubt he'd have a
problem with it.

z

Given the fine line between certificate and pilot certificate.

Pilot certificate is clearly defined in the regs. "Flight Instructor"
isn't one.

A CFI is not a rating, but is an additional privilege so if you are
lo

A CFI is a flight instructor certificate with various ratings attached
to it.

"Operating privilege" is not defined in the regs anywhere I can find,
but since a CFI is a certificate and a rating, it most likely doesn't
fall under "Operating privilege".

There is no way to interpret this reg as allowing the CFI to count as
a Flight Review, without incorporating a heavy dose of wishful
thinking.