Help needed re Mifflin wind turbines

As mentioned here in an earlier post, glider pilots who would be adversely affected by a ridge-top wind turbine complex on Jacks Mt near Mifflin are cooperating with a group named SOAR (Save Our Allegheny Ridges)in an attempt to thwart this project.

A quick way glider pilots can help is to vote "no" on the poll running in the local newspaper, the Lewistown Sentinel. Paste this link into your browser:

http://lewistownsentinel.com/page/po...ountains-.html


Thanks for taking the few seconds required. (Last time I checked it was 76% against, 22% for and the rest unsure.)

Karl Striedieck

On Saturday, March 22, 2014 9:25:58 AM UTC-4, Karl Striedieck wrote:
As mentioned here in an earlier post, glider pilots who would be adversely affected by a ridge-top wind turbine complex on Jacks Mt near Mifflin are cooperating with a group named SOAR (Save Our Allegheny Ridges)in an attempt to thwart this project.



A quick way glider pilots can help is to vote "no" on the poll running in the local newspaper, the Lewistown Sentinel. Paste this link into your browser:



http://lewistownsentinel.com/page/po...ountains-.html





Thanks for taking the few seconds required. (Last time I checked it was 76% against, 22% for and the rest unsure.)



Karl Striedieck

Done!!!

On Saturday, March 22, 2014 8:25:58 AM UTC-5, Karl Striedieck wrote:
As mentioned here in an earlier post, glider pilots who would be adversely affected by a ridge-top wind turbine complex on Jacks Mt near Mifflin are cooperating with a group named SOAR (Save Our Allegheny Ridges)in an attempt to thwart this project.



A quick way glider pilots can help is to vote "no" on the poll running in the local newspaper, the Lewistown Sentinel. Paste this link into your browser:



http://lewistownsentinel.com/page/po...ountains-.html





Thanks for taking the few seconds required. (Last time I checked it was 76% against, 22% for and the rest unsure.)



Karl Striedieck

Ditto!

Voted.

I stand firmly against the liberal hoards and their intentional effort to kill thousands of innocent birds precisely in the middle of their scarce and fleeting natural habitat. ;-)

It should not be called green energy. It should be called blood red energy for the horrible death birds experience while being struck down by the massive blades spinning on their once pristine ridges. ;-)

http://youtu.be/jwVz5hdAMGU

Sean
7T

On Saturday, March 22, 2014 3:42:15 PM UTC-6, gotovkotzepkoi wrote:
"I stand firmly against the liberal hoards and their intentional effort

to kill thousands of innocent birds precisely in the middle of their

scarce and fleeting natural habitat. ;-)"



Really? You're barking up the wrong tree. If you are truly worried about

birds then campaign for the immediate extermination of domesticated

house cats running around outside which are responsible for massive

birds deaths..



http://tinyurl.com/nwhbvtd



Bird deaths from wind turbines is negligible in the grand scheme.









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gotovkotzepkoi

I doubt that domesticated house cats have much of an impact on migrating raptors. The proliferation of wind turbines along migration flight ways might.

You never know...
http://tinyurl.com/prctuan

On Saturday, March 22, 2014 9:15:08 PM UTC-6, Whiskey Charlie wrote:
You never know...

http://tinyurl.com/prctuan

LOL!

On Saturday, March 22, 2014 11:15:08 PM UTC-4, Whiskey Charlie wrote:
You never know...

http://tinyurl.com/prctuan

That is hilarious WC. And so timely...

Notice how the liberal hordes have absolutely no heart. This is the sad truth about liberals. They only act as if they have feelings when it serves their political goals. The reality is that thousands of magnificent (and often endangered) birds are being killed each and every hour by "green" energy wind turbines. You could not design a better system of killing birds really. This is a fact that they try their best to ignore. The reality is that liberals do not care about birds being killed and suffering in horrible agony when struck by their green energy causes high speed turbine blades. They care about forcing non liberals to conform to their utopian fantasy of how the world must be. Remember the tale of the "spotted owl?"

Above we saw a classic liberal devaluing all birds lives and their right to live free of such dangers (wind turbines). Instead of responding to the sad video which shows one of the many bird deaths (which happen thousands and thousands of times each day in the US), the liberal drone instead tries to argue that house-cats are a more important threats to consider for these birds. So therefore the wind turbine bird massacre is "not his green energy causes fault" because house cats also kill birds (clearly the bald eagle in the photo is not very concerned about that house cat...)?

Its hard to follow the liberal logic. So comical is the "mind" of the mindless, liberal drone.

;-)

[quote=gotovkotzepkoi;854465]Hmmm....accused of being a "liberal drone"!! Now that hurts - NOT. Anyway, the figures about bird deaths from wind turbines appear to be highly inflated. Here is one of many sources:


While I do not doubt the veracity of the stats in this article, they are a red herring to the discussion. For example, there are 3-5 bird deaths per year on my back deck as birds try to fly from one side of our extened dining nook to the other (opposing three panel glass doors. Birds hit by my routine driving? 0-2 per year. Number of raptor deaths in my experiences? ZERO. Where is the concern for the fewer numbers of Birds of Prey, and the stats involving just them in this discussion, not the whole bird population?.

The main point of the bird deaths from the turbines IS about the number of Raptor deaths caused. And I seriously doubt those caused by cats and building/car collision are as significant (in the same areas) as wind turbines. Obviously wind turbines are not all over the place yet for comparison during the gathering of the facts in this article. The article doesn't break down Raptor VS "plain old bird" stats either. But in areas where ridge soaring occurs, Raptors do ride these same currents. They are still killed routinely by the newer wind turbines. And one could easily argue this is done in complete non-compliance with the law with no redress available...

Uhhhh... Whatever-the-hell-your-name-is: I believe the argument against
this wind farm is about gliders and ridge soaring.


"gotovkotzepkoi" wrote in
message ...

So comical is the "mind" of the mindless, liberal drone.
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Hmmm....accused of being a "liberal drone"!! Now that hurts - NOT.
Anyway, the figures about bird deaths from wind turbines appear to be
highly inflated. Here is one of many sources:

http://tinyurl.com/2v72l2l

An excerpt from that link:

"Man-made structure/technology

Associated bird deaths per year (U.S.)

Feral and domestic cats - Hundreds of millions [source: AWEA]

Power lines-130 million -- 174 million [source: AWEA]

Windows (residential and commercial)-100 million -- 1 billion [source:
TreeHugger]

Pesticides-70 million [source: AWEA]

Automobiles-60 million -- 80 million [source: AWEA]

Lighted communication towers-40 million -- 50 million [source: AWEA]

Wind turbines-10,000 -- 40,000 [source: ABC]

Collisions with wind turbines account for about one-tenth of a percent
of all "unnatural" bird deaths in the United States each year. And of
all bird deaths, 30 percent are due to natural causes, like baby birds
falling from nests [source: AWEA]. So why the widespread misconception
that labels wind turbines "bird-o-matics"? I*t all starts with
California, raptors and the thousands of old turbines that make up the
Altamont Pass wind farm.

In this article, we'll find out where the statistics went wrong, how
thousands of birds do end up flying into wind turbines each year and
what's being done to reduce the number of bird-turbine collisions."

Now I can get just as teary eyed as the next guy when one of our avian
soaring buddies gets whacked by a blade. But to say that these things
are going to slice and dice raptors into oblivion is just not true.

The bottom line is that some people do not want these wind farms on the
ridges. The reality is that most people do not want them for aesthetic
reasons-they look like crap. I agree with that. But that's a hard
argument to make. Glider pilots have an even weaker argument in the
overall battle against turbines. There simply aren't enough ridge flying
glider pilots to make a difference. Your average person cannot give a
rat's a*s that you are inconvenienced in the practice of your elite,
rich mans sport.

I am in the "they look like crap" category. I'll never forget how
shocked I was a few years back when I drove across West Texas for the
first time in 30 years. There were turbines all over the place that
severely detracted from the magic of that sparsely populated landscape.
Then, the demise of Boone Pickens big dream stopped him from sticking
them on every nub of terrain in the rest of West Texas.

So, good luck defeating the wind farm initiative but I don't think the
trumped up bird argument carries enough weight to be taken seriously.




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gotovkotzepkoi