Cessna Horn too quiet

I'm a member of a club that has a Cessna 177RG.
I just got checked out in it today , and the gear horn is waaaay too quiet.

I want a gear horn that is soo loud it will make your teeth hurt.

A club member landed it gear up about 4 months ago, so the owner of this particular
plane would also like to make the gear horn louder.

Anyone else had this problem?

Anyoune else have a solution?


As the gear horn and stall warning horn are part of the required
equipment fro the initial certification, how hard is it to modify the system, to
pipe the sound into the audio panel?


Can you put a peizo buzzer on the horn?


Paul

wrote:

I want a gear horn that is soo loud it will make your teeth hurt.

Well...are you sure?

I did my complex checkout recently in an R182. It too has a relatively
quiet horn.

But there are times when it is completely reasonable to have the pressure
down low but the gear still stowed. I don't want my teeth hurting then
grin.

Of course, it could be louder than it is. Why would a marker beacon make
more noise than the gear warning horn?

- Andrew

But there are times when it is completely reasonable to have the pressure
down low but the gear still stowed. I don't want my teeth hurting then
grin.

You can fly it that way, but I try to make it a point to not fly with the
gear horn on for more than a few seconds, if I have to dump the gear
and then pull it back up later I find that preferable to running with the gear horn on.

I realize that some aircraft have very restrictive gear operation speed limits,
and this may not always possible when operating in an ATC driven IFR environment.
Pulling the throttle back to the gear warning point above gear externsion speed probably
cools the engine too quickly and seems to be an indicator of poor descent planning.
Nothing says you can't slow down before you get to where you are going.

Maybe with all the cool new technology we will eventually have a smart GPS driven gear horn,
One that only goes off when less than 1K AGL within 2 miles of an airport.

Until that time I will do my best to never fly with the gear horn is on.


Flame away...

Paul

wrote:

You can fly it that way, but I try to make it a point to not fly with the
gear horn on for more than a few seconds, if I have to dump the gear
and then pull it back up later I find that preferable to running with the
gear horn on.

The Cutlass may differ from the R182 in this respect, but I dislike cycling
the R182's gear any more than necessary. The system is hydraulic with no
backup in case one loses all the fluid.

- Andrew

"Andrew Gideon" wrote in message
online.com...
The Cutlass may differ from the R182 in this respect, but I dislike
cycling
the R182's gear any more than necessary. The system is hydraulic with no
backup in case one loses all the fluid.

I believe that the 172RG has a similar gear system to the 182RG.

Cycling the gear doesn't use up hydraulic fluid. It's stored back in the
reservoir for use at a later time.

Pete

Peter Duniho wrote:

Cycling the gear doesn't use up hydraulic fluid. It's stored back in the
reservoir for use at a later time.

....assuming nothing is broken.

- Andrew

I'm a member of a club that has a Cessna 177RG.
I just got checked out in it today , and the gear horn is waaaay too
quiet.

I want a gear horn that is soo loud it will make your teeth hurt.

I found a electrolytic capacitor that had lost most of its capacity to be
the cause of a too quiet Cessna gear warning. This capacitor couples the
audio generated by the warning circuit to the aircraft audio.

Have you compared this aircraft's warning horn to another?

Cheers:

Paul

What I want is a horn that I can honk when someone cuts me off in the
pattern, and it should be so loud it makes THEIR teeth hurt...

wrote in message . ..
I'm a member of a club that has a Cessna 177RG.
I just got checked out in it today , and the gear horn is waaaay too quiet.

I want a gear horn that is soo loud it will make your teeth hurt.

A club member landed it gear up about 4 months ago, so the owner of this particular
plane would also like to make the gear horn louder.

Anyone else had this problem?

Anyoune else have a solution?


As the gear horn and stall warning horn are part of the required
equipment fro the initial certification, how hard is it to modify the system, to
pipe the sound into the audio panel?


Can you put a peizo buzzer on the horn?


Paul

turn off the ANR on your headset... but I agree.. a C177Rg I used to fly,
with a standard headset.. one could barely hear the gear horn.. perhaps it
should be piped into the headset?

BT

wrote in message
...
I'm a member of a club that has a Cessna 177RG.
I just got checked out in it today , and the gear horn is waaaay too
quiet.

I want a gear horn that is soo loud it will make your teeth hurt.

A club member landed it gear up about 4 months ago, so the owner of this
particular
plane would also like to make the gear horn louder.

Anyone else had this problem?

Anyoune else have a solution?


As the gear horn and stall warning horn are part of the required
equipment fro the initial certification, how hard is it to modify the
system, to
pipe the sound into the audio panel?


Can you put a peizo buzzer on the horn?


Paul

The only problem I see with increasing the noise level, is even if it is the
loudest thing you ever hear in the cockpit, pilots will sometimes tend to block
the sound out.
Just ask most of those who made an unintentional gear up landing.
When I was flying retracts (up to 15 flights a day), I would check to make sure
the gear was down and locked no less than 3 times before I touched down.


-John
*You are nothing until you have flown a Douglas, Lockheed, Grumman or North
American*