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Can a Private Pilot transport people for an organization or for "volunteer" purposes.
Examples: Red Cross, transporting people for medical services (cancer patients) etc.? I've wondered about being able to volunteer services for organizations. Would they be able to "split costs" at all? Or is it for transport only? Thanks! |
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Gary G wrote:
Can a Private Pilot transport people for an organization or for "volunteer" purposes. Examples: Red Cross, transporting people for medical services (cancer patients) etc.? I've wondered about being able to volunteer services for organizations. Would they be able to "split costs" at all? Or is it for transport only? Yes. It's what allows organizations such as AngelFlight to exist. |
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![]() "Ron Natalie" wrote in message m... Gary G wrote: Can a Private Pilot transport people for an organization or for "volunteer" purposes. Examples: Red Cross, transporting people for medical services (cancer patients) etc.? I've wondered about being able to volunteer services for organizations. Would they be able to "split costs" at all? Or is it for transport only? Yes. It's what allows organizations such as AngelFlight to exist. Be sure if you want to do that you look at the requirements it can be real prohibitive. Angel Flight requires 300 hours Total time and 75 hours cross country 25 in make and model or something like that and they charge you an annual fee to do it. Not sure of other organizations i have only herd of angel flight. If I was to volunteer my time and aircraft and the expenses that go along with it no way would I want to pay an annual fee. |
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"NW_PILOT" wrote in
: Yes. It's what allows organizations such as AngelFlight to exist. Be sure if you want to do that you look at the requirements it can be real prohibitive. Angel Flight requires 300 hours Total time and 75 hours cross country 25 in make and model or something like that and they charge you an annual fee to do it. Not sure of other organizations i have only herd of angel flight. If I was to volunteer my time and aircraft and the expenses that go along with it no way would I want to pay an annual fee. That answer is not entirely correct. Angel Flight is made up of six different regional organization, under the unbrella Angel Flight America. Although there is a move to standardize everything as much as possible, each region sets its own specific requirements. Some only require a Private Pilot license, while others want an instrument rating and a minimum number of hours (for example, Angel Flight South Central wants 200 hours PIC, total, and proof of insurance). It's not as arbitrary or random as it may sound. Each region has weather that may be unique - for example, Angel Flight North East has long required an instrument rating, because it is so scuzzy up there so much of the time. Whereas South Central only recently required one, and the minimum 200 hours, and that was almost entirely due to insurance requirements. [Actually, they still don't require an instrument rating - but if you are VFR only then they want you to schedule an IFR backup pilot "just in case." And with our weather, 95% of the time, VFR works just fine.] Check them out. Go to the web site and find your own region. Find out what THEY want. And talk with other Angel Flight pilots. It's a great excuse to fly, and a great feeling to help folks - whether you fly patients or blood runs or whatever you do to help out. James Knox Director Angel Flight South Central |
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![]() "James M. Knox" wrote in message 2... "NW_PILOT" wrote in : Yes. It's what allows organizations such as AngelFlight to exist. Be sure if you want to do that you look at the requirements it can be real prohibitive. Angel Flight requires 300 hours Total time and 75 hours cross country 25 in make and model or something like that and they charge you an annual fee to do it. Not sure of other organizations i have only herd of angel flight. If I was to volunteer my time and aircraft and the expenses that go along with it no way would I want to pay an annual fee. That answer is not entirely correct. Angel Flight is made up of six different regional organization, under the unbrella Angel Flight America. Although there is a move to standardize everything as much as possible, each region sets its own specific requirements. Some only require a Private Pilot license, while others want an instrument rating and a minimum number of hours (for example, Angel Flight South Central wants 200 hours PIC, total, and proof of insurance). It's not as arbitrary or random as it may sound. Each region has weather that may be unique - for example, Angel Flight North East has long required an instrument rating, because it is so scuzzy up there so much of the time. Whereas South Central only recently required one, and the minimum 200 hours, and that was almost entirely due to insurance requirements. [Actually, they still don't require an instrument rating - but if you are VFR only then they want you to schedule an IFR backup pilot "just in case." And with our weather, 95% of the time, VFR works just fine.] Check them out. Go to the web site and find your own region. Find out what THEY want. And talk with other Angel Flight pilots. It's a great excuse to fly, and a great feeling to help folks - whether you fly patients or blood runs or whatever you do to help out. James Knox Director Angel Flight South Central I can understand the Flight time requirements and the insurance requirements but to pay a mandatory annual fee I do not understand? As stated on the Angel Flight web site "The cost to join is only $50, and the annual dues are $35" I can understand charging non pilots a membership fee but pilots that provide a volunteer service should not be charged. I bet if they did not charge pilots these fees they would get a lot more pilots volunteering. The way I see angel flight is like having to pay a member ship fee to volunteer in a soup kitchen when your providing the soup. A company with good intentions. Remember to be a NPO only 1% of every dollar donated needs to go to the organization. |
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I contacted Angelflight shortly after I got my ticket. The web site said
that you could volunteer to be co-pilot w/o IFR rating. I'm still waiting for a response. It's only been eight years. "NW_PILOT" wrote in message ... "James M. Knox" wrote in message 2... "NW_PILOT" wrote in : Yes. It's what allows organizations such as AngelFlight to exist. Be sure if you want to do that you look at the requirements it can be real prohibitive. Angel Flight requires 300 hours Total time and 75 hours cross country 25 in make and model or something like that and they charge you an annual fee to do it. Not sure of other organizations i have only herd of angel flight. If I was to volunteer my time and aircraft and the expenses that go along with it no way would I want to pay an annual fee. That answer is not entirely correct. Angel Flight is made up of six different regional organization, under the unbrella Angel Flight America. Although there is a move to standardize everything as much as possible, each region sets its own specific requirements. Some only require a Private Pilot license, while others want an instrument rating and a minimum number of hours (for example, Angel Flight South Central wants 200 hours PIC, total, and proof of insurance). It's not as arbitrary or random as it may sound. Each region has weather that may be unique - for example, Angel Flight North East has long required an instrument rating, because it is so scuzzy up there so much of the time. Whereas South Central only recently required one, and the minimum 200 hours, and that was almost entirely due to insurance requirements. [Actually, they still don't require an instrument rating - but if you are VFR only then they want you to schedule an IFR backup pilot "just in case." And with our weather, 95% of the time, VFR works just fine.] Check them out. Go to the web site and find your own region. Find out what THEY want. And talk with other Angel Flight pilots. It's a great excuse to fly, and a great feeling to help folks - whether you fly patients or blood runs or whatever you do to help out. James Knox Director Angel Flight South Central I can understand the Flight time requirements and the insurance requirements but to pay a mandatory annual fee I do not understand? As stated on the Angel Flight web site "The cost to join is only $50, and the annual dues are $35" I can understand charging non pilots a membership fee but pilots that provide a volunteer service should not be charged. I bet if they did not charge pilots these fees they would get a lot more pilots volunteering. The way I see angel flight is like having to pay a member ship fee to volunteer in a soup kitchen when your providing the soup. A company with good intentions. Remember to be a NPO only 1% of every dollar donated needs to go to the organization. |
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NW_PILOT wrote:
[snip] I can understand the Flight time requirements and the insurance requirements but to pay a mandatory annual fee I do not understand? As stated on the Angel Flight web site "The cost to join is only $50, and the annual dues are $35" I can understand charging non pilots a membership fee but pilots that provide a volunteer service should not be charged. I bet if they did not charge pilots these fees they would get a lot more pilots volunteering. Betcha it wouldn't. |
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"NW_PILOT" wrote in message ...
The way I see angel flight is like having to pay a member ship fee to volunteer in a soup kitchen when your providing the soup. A company with good intentions. Very few of the pilot members ever fly missions. There are a huge number of pilots that just want to be members. Also, they really do need some way to pay for the office. It comes down to the fact that they ask for it and the existing pilots don't complain. From their point of view there is no reason to change. I get mine waved because I'm a checkout CFI (or whatever they call it now). However, I still send them $40 or so every year because they are a good org. -Robert |
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NW_PILOT ) wrote:
Remember to be a NPO only 1% of every dollar donated needs to go to the organization. I can assure you that about 100% of every dollar you donate to AngelFlight goes to AngelFlight to support its organization. If you cannot cover the yearly tax-deductable donation of (fill in your two-digit fee here) to AngelFlight, you sure could not afford the fuel and time costs of flying the patients. Fortunately, AF's pilot database contains thousands of pilots who truly understand what the organization provides to the less fortunate and a trivial two-digit fee doesn't prevent these pilots from volunteering. -- Peter |
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