GPS Question

In A&P school several years ago, we were told that GPS was not certified for
use in aircraft, although they do make a good *aid*.

Has the FAA changed it's stance on the use of GPS? Has GPS become certified
to use in navigation in aircraft?


Thanks...

Chuck


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"Chuck" wrote in message
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In A&P school several years ago, we were told that GPS was not certified
for
use in aircraft, although they do make a good *aid*.

Has the FAA changed it's stance on the use of GPS? Has GPS become
certified
to use in navigation in aircraft?

Certified GPSs are certified. Uncertified GPSs are not.

Handhelds cannot be certified. Panel-mounted ones can be, but are not
always.

I'm surprised that you were taught any differently "several years" ago,
since GPS isn't all that new a technology anymore. Just how many years ago
WAS that?

Pete

"Peter Duniho" wrote in message
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"Chuck" wrote in message
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In A&P school several years ago, we were told that GPS was not certified
for
use in aircraft, although they do make a good *aid*.

Has the FAA changed it's stance on the use of GPS? Has GPS become
certified
to use in navigation in aircraft?

Certified GPSs are certified. Uncertified GPSs are not.

Handhelds cannot be certified. Panel-mounted ones can be, but are not
always.

I'm surprised that you were taught any differently "several years" ago,
since GPS isn't all that new a technology anymore. Just how many years
ago
WAS that?

Pete



It was 2002-2003.

I will admit that my A&P school wasn't very good. I feel that I received a
poor education dealing with aircraft, but, I was able to pass the O&P's (off
campus)


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"Peter Duniho" wrote in message
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"Chuck" wrote in message
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In A&P school several years ago, we were told that GPS was not
certified for
use in aircraft, although they do make a good *aid*.

Has the FAA changed it's stance on the use of GPS? Has GPS become
certified
to use in navigation in aircraft?

Certified GPSs are certified. Uncertified GPSs are not.

Handhelds cannot be certified. Panel-mounted ones can be, but are
not always.

I'm surprised that you were taught any differently "several years"
ago, since GPS isn't all that new a technology anymore. Just how
many years
ago
WAS that?

Pete



It was 2002-2003.

I will admit that my A&P school wasn't very good. I feel that I
received a poor education dealing with aircraft, but, I was able to
pass the O&P's (off campus)


There were plenty of GPS approaches in use in 2002.




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"Chuck" wrote in
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"Peter Duniho" wrote in message
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"Chuck" wrote in message
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In A&P school several years ago, we were told that GPS was not
certified for
use in aircraft, although they do make a good *aid*.

Has the FAA changed it's stance on the use of GPS? Has GPS become
certified
to use in navigation in aircraft?

Certified GPSs are certified. Uncertified GPSs are not.

Handhelds cannot be certified. Panel-mounted ones can be, but are
not always.

I'm surprised that you were taught any differently "several years"
ago, since GPS isn't all that new a technology anymore. Just how
many years
ago
WAS that?

Pete



It was 2002-2003.

I will admit that my A&P school wasn't very good. I feel that I
received a poor education dealing with aircraft, but, I was able to
pass the O&P's (off campus)


There were plenty of GPS approaches in use in 2002.


Hmmm... I guess that proves that my A&P school sucked!


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Which school so we can avoid it?

Chuck wrote:

Hmmm... I guess that proves that my A&P school sucked!

Don't know about that, but they were definitely wrong about GPS.

George Patterson
If a man gets into a fight 3,000 miles away from home, he *had* to have
been looking for it.

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whack

It was 2002-2003.

I will admit that my A&P school wasn't very good. I feel that I received a
poor education dealing with aircraft, but, I was able to pass the O&P's
(off
campus)


I hope you are not working as an A&P. If you are, don't quit your real job.

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"Chuck" wrote in message
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whack

It was 2002-2003.

I will admit that my A&P school wasn't very good. I feel that I received
a
poor education dealing with aircraft, but, I was able to pass the O&P's
(off
campus)


I hope you are not working as an A&P. If you are, don't quit your real
job.



No, I am not working as an A&P.


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whack

It was 2002-2003.

I will admit that my A&P school wasn't very good. I feel that I received
a
poor education dealing with aircraft, but, I was able to pass the O&P's
(off
campus)


I hope you are not working as an A&P. If you are, don't quit your real
job.



Speaking of, out of 25 in our class, I would trust maybe 5 people (including
me, of course) to actually work on an aircraft.

One guy got arrested for drug possession a little while into our 2 year
course, and by the time the 2 years were up, he was working for AA. Another
(suspected - heard him talk about it but never saw it) drug user went to
work for GE Online services.

There were several more that I suspect had a drug habits and several that I
know for a fact have alcohol problems.

Some were just plain ignorant. One guy, I had to show him how to tighten the
chuck on a drill. He had no clue!

In Aviation Science class (if I remember correctly), in the math portion,
the instructor would have each of the 25 students go to the board and do
basic adding, subtracting, multiplying and dividing. We each had to do 3 or
4 problems of each. This took the entire 2 hour class period.

In Assembly and Rigging, we flew paper airplanes the entire 2 hour class
period. Same instructor as above. Now don't get me wrong, I feel that paper
airplanes are probably a good aid in teaching aerodynamics, but for 2 hours,
and no explanation of aerodynamics???

Most of the instructors had no business teaching aviation. They may be good
in their fields, but they were not good *instructors*.

In basic electricity, I learned more in one day from a substitute
instructor, than I did the whole semester with our regular instructor. We
spent 1, yes, one day learning AC electricity. Same instructor also taught
welding. During the first class period, he informed us that he is not a
welder and knows nothing about welding. I saw him try to weld, and I believe
him! I would show him a welding project and ask what he thought. He would
say that it looked great and to turn it in. I would turn it in and would get
a 70 on it.

Sorry.... I'm on a roll now...

I'm sorry, but that place was a joke.


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