What is Southwest airlines Nuts ?

Why in the world would they let us see what goes on at that airline on the
show AIRLINE
on A&E Mondays at 8:00pm eastern.

They overbook and strand passengers and families headed for vacations booked
months in advance.
Remove paying passengers from the plane to accommodate deadheading crew.

I am sure it is written into a law favoring the airline that they can do
this but still it makes me think twice about flying them.

That airline is pure hell. I used to travel 250,000 miles a year for
business, all domestic. I refused and still refuse to fly them. It's
no better then the Greyhound bus.

"569" wrote in message
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That airline is pure hell. I used to travel 250,000 miles a year for
business, all domestic. I refused and still refuse to fly them. It's
no better then the Greyhound bus.


Well, you get what you pay for. That is the market that Southwest caters to.

"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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"569" wrote in message
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That airline is pure hell. I used to travel 250,000 miles a year for
business, all domestic. I refused and still refuse to fly them. It's
no better then the Greyhound bus.


Well, you get what you pay for. That is the market that Southwest caters
to.

Southwest flies more passengers by far than any other airline and is one of
a few actually making money. If other airlines want to survive it is the
Southwest model they will have to adopt.

"Dave Stadt" wrote in message
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"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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"569" wrote in message
oups.com...
That airline is pure hell. I used to travel 250,000 miles a year for
business, all domestic. I refused and still refuse to fly them. It's
no better then the Greyhound bus.


Well, you get what you pay for. That is the market that Southwest caters
to.

Southwest flies more passengers by far than any other airline and is one
of
a few actually making money. If other airlines want to survive it is the
Southwest model they will have to adopt.

Southwest is the most profitable, but although some other airlines have
tried to copy them, they have so far not been nearly as successful.

I wonder if business travelers should bother with the airlines at all
anymore.

"C J Campbell" wrote:
I wonder if business travelers should bother with the airlines at all
anymore.

??

What's the alternative for most of them? High-power bigwigs who can
justify charter or private jet travel are a small fraction of business
travelers.
--
Dan
C172RG at BFM

I read an article recently that most business travelers that used to fly on
trips
of 300 miles or less, now drive. This is where being a pilot really pays
off.
I've flown myself on trips like this(and longer) where other guys have
driven.
Can't blame them. After driving to the airport, getting there 2 hours early
for
security, praying your flight leaves on time(or at all), it's easier to
drive.



"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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"Dave Stadt" wrote in message
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"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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"569" wrote in message
oups.com...
That airline is pure hell. I used to travel 250,000 miles a year for
business, all domestic. I refused and still refuse to fly them.
It's
no better then the Greyhound bus.


Well, you get what you pay for. That is the market that Southwest
caters
to.

Southwest flies more passengers by far than any other airline and is one
of
a few actually making money. If other airlines want to survive it is the
Southwest model they will have to adopt.

Southwest is the most profitable, but although some other airlines have
tried to copy them, they have so far not been nearly as successful.

I wonder if business travelers should bother with the airlines at all
anymore.

C J Campbell wrote:

I wonder if business travelers should bother with the airlines at all
anymore.

A few years ago, my job took me to Atlanta frequently, so we'll take that as an
example. A flight from Newark to Atlanta takes about 4.5 hours from my door to
the hotel near BellSouth headquarters (flight time about 2 hours 15 minutes). If
I were stupid enough to drive it, we're talking about 18 hours at 5-10 mph over
the speed limit. Even that would beat Amtrak.

And "conference calls" will not do the job in many cases. We would've lost a 50
mil contract if I couldn't have been face to face with the subject matter
experts on one occasion (our competition *was* face to face with them).

George Patterson
The desire for safety stands against every great and noble enterprise.

"Dave Stadt" wrote in message
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Southwest flies more passengers by far than any other airline

Actually SWA has only become a top-5 player in the past five years or so.
Last I checked, DL, SW, and AA were all pretty close to each other.

http://www.bts.gov/press_releases/20...bts019_04.html

and is one of
a few actually making money. If other airlines want to survive it is the
Southwest model they will have to adopt.


Southwest does not operate a national network, but rather flies a large
number of point-to-point flights. The difference is subtle but significant.
SW is fine if you're going from Manchester to Midway, but if you're trying
to get to Boise it doesn't necessarily work so well and connection times
often run over two hours versus 60mins on a hub-and-spoke carrier. As
Southwest has gotten bigger and served more cities with higher frequency
this has become less of a problem, but their model has its limits. They
intentionally avoid most large airports (BOS, ORD, JFK, LGA, EWK, SFO) as
well.

-cwk.

"569" wrote in message oups.com...
That airline is pure hell. I used to travel 250,000 miles a year for
business, all domestic. I refused and still refuse to fly them. It's
no better then the Greyhound bus.



Southwest leads the pack for good reason. I have not had a good experience on any of the 'majors' for a very long time,
but every time I fly Southwest, I have a great time - departures on time, friendly and motivated flight crews and gate
personnel, bags are there, airfare (about half?!?!), everything. I suppose it is a matter of expectations. If you pay
the really big bucks you can maybe get a good seat on a major, but they still will be late and loose your bags and the
crews are so de-motivated from all the false promises. I just wish Southwest was closer to us - I have to drive 2 1/2
hours just to catch a flight with them...

--
Dan D.
http://www.ameritech.net/users/ddevillers/start.html


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