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Old December 16th 05, 03:24 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photoga...planecrash.wmv

This one was just sent to me without any background info. It shows a
beautiful P-38 Lightning, painted in D-Day invasion stripes, doing
barrel rolls right into the ground at airshow center.

Judging by the hair styles, I'm guessing this happened in the 1980s?
There are a fair number of parked warbirds, but also some GA planes...

Was it pilot error, or was there a mechanical failure? Where did this
happen? Can anyone point to the NTSB report?

Thanks,
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Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

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Old December 16th 05, 04:02 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
oups.com...
http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photoga...planecrash.wmv

This one was just sent to me without any background info. It shows a
beautiful P-38 Lightning, painted in D-Day invasion stripes, doing
barrel rolls right into the ground at airshow center.

Judging by the hair styles, I'm guessing this happened in the 1980s?
There are a fair number of parked warbirds, but also some GA planes...

Was it pilot error, or was there a mechanical failure? Where did this
happen? Can anyone point to the NTSB report?

Thanks,
--
Jay Honeck



Damn that sucks. I would hate to be witness to something like that.

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DW


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Old December 16th 05, 04:08 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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In article .com,
"Jay Honeck" wrote:

http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photoga...planecrash.wmv

This one was just sent to me without any background info. It shows a
beautiful P-38 Lightning, painted in D-Day invasion stripes, doing
barrel rolls right into the ground at airshow center.
Judging by the hair styles, I'm guessing this happened in the 1980s?
There are a fair number of parked warbirds, but also some GA planes...


Jeff Ethel in Tillamook , Oregon.
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Old December 16th 05, 04:22 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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john smith wrote:
In article .com,
"Jay Honeck" wrote:


http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photoga...planecrash.wmv

This one was just sent to me without any background info. It shows a
beautiful P-38 Lightning, painted in D-Day invasion stripes, doing
barrel rolls right into the ground at airshow center.
Judging by the hair styles, I'm guessing this happened in the 1980s?
There are a fair number of parked warbirds, but also some GA planes...



Jeff Ethel in Tillamook , Oregon.


Jeff Ethell crashed in the woods a few miles from the Tillamook airport,
not in front of a crowd.

http://ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id...08X08240&key=1

- J.O.-
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Old December 16th 05, 04:27 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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john smith wrote:

Jeff Ethel in Tillamook , Oregon.


From what I read about that accident, Ethel mishandled the fuel and both
engines quit on him. According to the NTSB report, the aircraft was intact
enough to determine the position of the fuel selectors and condition of the
engines. Doesn't sound like this crash at all.

http://home.worldonline.dk/winthrop/ethel1.html

George Patterson
Coffee is only a way of stealing time that should by rights belong to
your slightly older self.
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Old December 16th 05, 04:13 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Jay Honeck wrote:
http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photoga...planecrash.wmv

This one was just sent to me without any background info. It shows a
beautiful P-38 Lightning, painted in D-Day invasion stripes, doing
barrel rolls right into the ground at airshow center.

Judging by the hair styles, I'm guessing this happened in the 1980s?
There are a fair number of parked warbirds, but also some GA planes...

Was it pilot error, or was there a mechanical failure? Where did this
happen? Can anyone point to the NTSB report?


Probably this one:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1367462.stm
14 July 1996: Decorated former RAF squadron leader and Britannia Airways
pilot Michael "Hoof" Proudfoot dies as his Lockheed P38 Lightning
cartwheels and bursts into flames.

The 54-year-old had been on a low-level flypast in the vintage US World
War Two plane in front of 13,000 people at the Imperial War Museum in
Duxford, Cambridgeshire.


http://www.airliners.net/open.file/895693/L/
Lockheed P-38J Lightning
NX3145 / 67543 Unfortunately lost in a crash at Duxford 16 July 1996


- J.O.-
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Old December 16th 05, 05:03 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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I do not see any British marked aircraft in the footage... Could be
happenstance, or may not be the accident in England..
denny

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Old December 16th 05, 05:37 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Denny wrote:
I do not see any British marked aircraft in the footage... Could be
happenstance, or may not be the accident in England..
denny


With many thanks to Dave Martin, it was, indeed, the Duxford crash.
Here is the report on the accident:

http://www.aaib.gov.uk/publications/...eed_501731.cfm


Very sad.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

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Old December 17th 05, 02:45 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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John Ousterhout wrote:

Probably this one:


Well, the latter link is an excellent photo. The plane is in the late model bare
aluminum paint scheme. What paint there is appears to be in excellent shape. The
video of the crash shows one in the green paint scheme used prior to 1944. I
think that a good indication that these were not the same plane.

George Patterson
Coffee is only a way of stealing time that should by rights belong to
your slightly older self.
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Old December 19th 05, 11:23 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 at 16:13:56 in message
8JBof.651020$xm3.363465@attbi_s21, John Ousterhout
wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1367462.stm
14 July 1996: Decorated former RAF squadron leader and Britannia
Airways pilot Michael "Hoof" Proudfoot dies as his Lockheed P38
Lightning cartwheels and bursts into flames.

The 54-year-old had been on a low-level flypast in the vintage US World
War Two plane in front of 13,000 people at the Imperial War Museum in
Duxford, Cambridgeshire.


I believe that is the one. I recall reading about the accident
investigation. The pilot normally did a low level roll, but always with
an upward flight path. In this case for an unknown reason a second
started. The most likely theory I believe is that a loose piece of
equipment fell into the bottom of the cockpit - possibly a knee-board,
possibly jamming the aileron control.

--
David CL Francis
 




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