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Old April 19th 06, 11:30 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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What has anyone actually experienced in making the change from a third class
medical to the Sport Pilots "driver" license?

My insurance company has said "no problem unless the policy specifically
states a third class medical is needed" (it doesn't).

Thanks, Dick


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Old April 19th 06, 03:45 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Dick" wrote in news:yjo1g.4484$sh.2172@trnddc08:

What has anyone actually experienced in making the change from a third
class medical to the Sport Pilots "driver" license?

My insurance company has said "no problem unless the policy
specifically states a third class medical is needed" (it doesn't).

Thanks, Dick




Other than checking with your insurance company, there is no
"transition" to make.... The last valid day of your medical you are a
private pilot, the next day you may fly using Sport Pilot Privileges...
(and limitations).

This would also apply to a private pilot being diagnosed with a
condition that would normally ground you until another visit to your
AME.

This, of course does not mean just because a PP has a valid drivers
license, they should just go fly.... (or drive for that matter).

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Old April 19th 06, 09:56 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Technically, I don't think you are allowed to fly sport pilot if you know
you have a condition that would disqualify you from having a third class
medical. You also can't fly sport pilot if you have had a medical denied.

Having a drivers license per se is not enough. You have to believe that you
are in good enough health to fly.

Mike Schumann

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"Dick" wrote in news:yjo1g.4484$sh.2172@trnddc08:

What has anyone actually experienced in making the change from a third
class medical to the Sport Pilots "driver" license?

My insurance company has said "no problem unless the policy
specifically states a third class medical is needed" (it doesn't).

Thanks, Dick




Other than checking with your insurance company, there is no
"transition" to make.... The last valid day of your medical you are a
private pilot, the next day you may fly using Sport Pilot Privileges...
(and limitations).

This would also apply to a private pilot being diagnosed with a
condition that would normally ground you until another visit to your
AME.

This, of course does not mean just because a PP has a valid drivers
license, they should just go fly.... (or drive for that matter).

--
-- ET :-)

"A common mistake people make when trying to design something
completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete
fools."---- Douglas Adams



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Old April 19th 06, 10:24 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Technically, I don't think you are allowed to fly sport pilot if you know
you have a condition that would disqualify you from having a third class
medical.


My understanding is that you can't fly if you have a condition which
prevents you from flying safely - this is not the same as having a
condition which would nix a class III.

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Old April 20th 06, 02:17 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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No, but it does put the pilot on the honor system -- with all the good
and bad that such a system allows.

AJ

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Old April 20th 06, 03:42 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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My understanding is that you can't fly if you have a condition which prevents you from flying safely - this is not the same as having a condition which would nix a class III.

No, but it does put the pilot on the honor system -- with all the good
and bad that such a system allows.


.... and that is the whole point of the sport pilot non-medical.

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Old April 20th 06, 04:30 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"AJ" wrote in message
ups.com...
No, but it does put the pilot on the honor system -- with all the good
and bad that such a system allows.

AJ


Glider pilots have been under an identical rule for decades and the 'bads'
are nearly nonexistant.


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Old April 20th 06, 04:33 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Jose wrote in
om:

Technically, I don't think you are allowed to fly sport pilot if you
know you have a condition that would disqualify you from having a
third class medical.


My understanding is that you can't fly if you have a condition which
prevents you from flying safely - this is not the same as having a
condition which would nix a class III.

Jose


That understanding is incorrect... the part of the fars that mention
medical exams, and certain medical conditions SPECIFIALCALLY exclude glider
and sport pilots.

If you need it, I can quote it just no time to dig it up at the moment.

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Old April 20th 06, 05:10 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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My understanding is that you can't fly if you have a condition which
prevents you from flying safely - this is not the same as having a
condition which would nix a class III.


That understanding is incorrect... the part of the fars that mention
medical exams, and certain medical conditions SPECIFIALCALLY exclude glider
and sport pilots.


I don't see how that contradicts. Even though a SP is excluded from
having to meet specific medical requirements, they are not excluded from
having to meet =any= requriements. They are still prohibited from
flying when they are unfit to fly, as determined by the pilot himself or
herself. The pilot can have a condition which would nix a class III,
but still be safe to fly. This is why I disagree with:

Technically, I don't think you are allowed to fly sport pilot if you
know you have a condition that would disqualify you from having a
third class medical.


Jose
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Old April 21st 06, 10:40 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Wed, 19 Apr 2006 14:45:49 GMT, ET wrote:

Other than checking with your insurance company, there is no
"transition" to make.... The last valid day of your medical you are a
private pilot, the next day you may fly using Sport Pilot Privileges...
(and limitations).


When this first applied, there was a squib in AOPA Pilot about a guy
in California who has a Special Issuance medical. It's good for one
year, and the tests he submits are processed and the medical issued by
the FAA in six months. He's not allowed to submit the paperback until
four months before he wants to renew, so every year there's two months
he can't fly. (I am quoting these times from memory; they may be off.)

So this year he flew his Piper Cub on Sport Pilot privileges during
the two-month hiatus, firing up his AT-6 Texan only after the medical
came through from the FAA.



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