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If you want to see and read more about the Hustler, click on
the link to my B-58 web site, below. Don't forget to sign the guest book. The More B-58 Pictures Annex link takes you to 3 more pages of pictures and text. -- Darrell R. Schmidt B-58 Hustler History: (see below) http://members.cox.net/dschmidt1/ |
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![]() Darrell S wrote: If you want to see and read more about the Hustler, click on the link to my B-58 web site, below. Don't forget to sign the guest book. The More B-58 Pictures Annex link takes you to 3 more pages of pictures and text. -- Darrell R. Schmidt B-58 Hustler History: (see below) http://members.cox.net/dschmidt1/ The Lippisch connection and F-102/F-106 delta predecessors aside, the B-58 is a great a/c. My USAF neighbor worked on the machine and he still loves that plane above all other US postwar bombers. Despite my constant German rhetoric I love the B-52 Stratofortress, especially the D-model from Vietnam with the bullet nose and tall tail. Hey, at least Dan can't complain about that! Good luck with your site Herr Schmidt. Rob |
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More proof of a German connection?
http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.co...er/gal4963.htm Rob Arndt wrote: Darrell S wrote: If you want to see and read more about the Hustler, click on the link to my B-58 web site, below. Don't forget to sign the guest book. The More B-58 Pictures Annex link takes you to 3 more pages of pictures and text. -- Darrell R. Schmidt B-58 Hustler History: (see below) http://members.cox.net/dschmidt1/ The Lippisch connection and F-102/F-106 delta predecessors aside, the B-58 is a great a/c. My USAF neighbor worked on the machine and he still loves that plane above all other US postwar bombers. Despite my constant German rhetoric I love the B-52 Stratofortress, especially the D-model from Vietnam with the bullet nose and tall tail. Hey, at least Dan can't complain about that! Good luck with your site Herr Schmidt. Rob |
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![]() Rob Arndt wrote: wrote: More proof of a German connection? http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.co...er/gal4963.htm That is pretty original and funny... yet historically and factually, Dr. Lippisch is firmly established postwar with Convair and their designs. Thanks for the humor though... impressive! Rob Besides Lippisch, the real pioneer of delta craft (not counting German gliders) was Roland Payen. He had a multitude of delta designs that even surpassed Lippisch in terms of futuristic configurations and the Nazis captured his unflown Pa-22 in France: http://www.strange-mecha.com/aircraft/Ente/pa22.JPG This was originally to be a ramjet fighter powered by the Melot ramjet, but that engine failed so Payen just used a prop one instead. The funny story here is that no one told the Luftwaffe pilot taking the a/c that it had never been flown. He waved them aside with arrogance and just just flew it back to Germany where it was at Rechlin for a time before it was to be returned back to France. The Allies bombed its storage area and so Payen lost the a/c... I don't think it had any influence on the Lippisch P.XIII fighters, nor the DM-1 design. It is, however, one of hundreds of delta designs Payen had concieved and yet he is historically all but forgotten compared to Lippisch. Sad, but true. Rob |
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Hi Darrel
Darrell S wrote: If you want to see and read more about the Hustler, click on the link to my B-58 web site, below. Don't forget to sign the guest book. The More B-58 Pictures Annex link takes you to 3 more pages of pictures and text. Darrell R. Schmidt B-58 Hustler History: (see below) http://members.cox.net/dschmidt1/ Here's another interesting link, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B-58_Hustler As I understand it, the B58 was a high speed - high altitude bomber that entered service about Mar/15/1960, with nil stealth capability. Gary Power's U2 was shot down May/1/1960, and had some stealth paint, that the Ruskies managed to circumvent. So 2 months after entering service, the B58 became a *low altitude penetration* bomber, with enough range for a one way trip into the USSR, effectively rendering it a kamikaze bomber. I think the crews knew that and it's their courage that helped keep us safe during the transition to ICBM's. IMO it was as sexy as anything that flew but it was not a good warplane because it was difficult to adapt, while the B52 could carry stand-off weapons and make it home, though in hindsight, it filled a vital deterrence gap in the early 1960's, that was equivalent to the B52 swarm, depending on gravity bombs. Regards Ken |
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![]() Rob Arndt wrote: wrote: Hi Darrel Darrell S wrote: If you want to see and read more about the Hustler, click on the link to my B-58 web site, below. Don't forget to sign the guest book. The More B-58 Pictures Annex link takes you to 3 more pages of pictures and text. Darrell R. Schmidt B-58 Hustler History: (see below) http://members.cox.net/dschmidt1/ Here's another interesting link, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B-58_Hustler As I understand it, the B58 was a high speed - high altitude bomber that entered service about Mar/15/1960, with nil stealth capability. Gary Power's U2 was shot down May/1/1960, and had some stealth paint, that the Ruskies managed to circumvent. So 2 months after entering service, the B58 became a *low altitude penetration* bomber, with enough range for a one way trip into the USSR, effectively rendering it a kamikaze bomber. I think the crews knew that and it's their courage that helped keep us safe during the transition to ICBM's. IMO it was as sexy as anything that flew but it was not a good warplane because it was difficult to adapt, while the B52 could carry stand-off weapons and make it home, though in hindsight, it filled a vital deterrence gap in the early 1960's, that was equivalent to the B52 swarm, depending on gravity bombs. Regards Ken\ Wasn't it the fastest postwar bomber until the XB-70 came along??? Rob Well the XB-70 was a class above the B58, but the Ruskies may have had something better. The A-12 (Blackbird) was considered for a strike bomber, with a pair of tactical nukes...that would have been a highly effective system, but the triad deterrence (sub, b52+ stand-off, ICBM) had matured by 1965 that rendered the A-12 redundant in the McNamara MAD doctrine, which in hindsight looks good. Regards Ken |
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Wasn't it the fastest postwar bomber until the XB-70 came along???
Well the XB-70 was a class above the B58 A B-58 was one of the chase planes for the XB-70. |
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![]() john smith wrote: Wasn't it the fastest postwar bomber until the XB-70 came along??? Well the XB-70 was a class above the B58 A B-58 was one of the chase planes for the XB-70. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XB-70 With the petal to the metal, the B58 is a dimishing artifact in the rear view mirror of an XB70. I don't know, but think an XB-70 could blow the SR-71 away for many technical reasons, like ballistic coefficient and thermal cooling. Ken |
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