Another small plane SLAMS into home, killing one occupant

http://www.2theadvocate.com/news/3378291.html

Home was reportedly "totally destroyed." Occupant of nearby mobile home
that was struck is dead.

Like I said yesterday, NTSB needs to start keeping track of damaged and
destroyed structures, as well as ground casualties.

In Portland, Intel is now expressing concerns about the wisdom of having
an airshow in a largely residential area.

On 2006-07-19, Skylune wrote:
Like I said yesterday, NTSB needs to start keeping track of damaged and
destroyed structures, as well as ground casualties.

Ummm... they already do.

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What I mean is that they should put these statistics into the database. I
realize they describe the accident and the number of fatalities includes
those on the ground. I think they should add columns that include "ground
injuries, ground fatalities, ground structures damaged/destroyed" in column
in this database:

http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/Response2.asp

Then call your Congressman and write the NTSB. There should
also be a record of the planes that crash on ball diamonds
when nobody is there, on golf courses when nobody is
playing, in pastures and whether the field had cows, horses,
sheep, or nudists.


"Skylune" wrote in message
lkaboutaviation.com...
| What I mean is that they should put these statistics into
the database. I
| realize they describe the accident and the number of
fatalities includes
| those on the ground. I think they should add columns that
include "ground
| injuries, ground fatalities, ground structures
damaged/destroyed" in column
| in this database:
|
| http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/Response2.asp
|

I agree with the "nudists", as I assume you are speaking of people. But
who knows? (Does the dead pilot qualify as a hero, do ya think? He
probably was heroically avoiding a much larger gathering of orphans or
something....)

The other data you suggest collecting would clutter up the database too
much IMO, although golf courses DO seem to be a popular alternative
landing site.

Question: If a golfer yells "fore" and then drives, hitting a small plane
buzzing the course or flying in for an off-field landing, would that
violate the FARs? Does the FAA have any jursidiction over golfers, and
how high they can hit the ball when they drive?


I have to think that this whole issue (House Slamming) would go away if
either:
1. Boyer issued a strongly worded statement opposing the slamming of GA
aircraft into homes
2. The FARs were modified to explicity outlaw slamming, crashing,
"impacting" or otherwise causing damage to properties on the ground
3. Alternatively, all private homes should be taken thru eminent domain,
and residents re-located to small portions of the country where
overflights are prohibited.

There could be other solutions to the Home Slamming problem, but we will
have to wait until a large group of people are killed on the ground
because of faulty equipment or "pilot error."

About 20-25 years ago, Jim Bede was going to fly around the
world solo, not refueled. He built a modified glider and
installed special engine and oxygen systems. He did fly it
a couple of times and did set a record for a closed course
over the USA during a test flight. He was asked about the
problem of a single-engine over the oceans 3/4 of the trip.
He answered that he had a placard on the panel...
WATER LANDINGS PROHIBITED



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"Skylune" wrote in message
lkaboutaviation.com...
|I agree with the "nudists", as I assume you are speaking of
people. But
| who knows? (Does the dead pilot qualify as a hero, do ya
think? He
| probably was heroically avoiding a much larger gathering
of orphans or
| something....)
|
| The other data you suggest collecting would clutter up the
database too
| much IMO, although golf courses DO seem to be a popular
alternative
| landing site.
|
| Question: If a golfer yells "fore" and then drives,
hitting a small plane
| buzzing the course or flying in for an off-field landing,
would that
| violate the FARs? Does the FAA have any jursidiction over
golfers, and
| how high they can hit the ball when they drive?
|
|
| I have to think that this whole issue (House Slamming)
would go away if
| either:
| 1. Boyer issued a strongly worded statement opposing the
slamming of GA
| aircraft into homes
| 2. The FARs were modified to explicity outlaw slamming,
crashing,
| "impacting" or otherwise causing damage to properties on
the ground
| 3. Alternatively, all private homes should be taken thru
eminent domain,
| and residents re-located to small portions of the country
where
| overflights are prohibited.
|
| There could be other solutions to the Home Slamming
problem, but we will
| have to wait until a large group of people are killed on
the ground
| because of faulty equipment or "pilot error."
|

I have to think that this whole issue (House Slamming) would go away if
either...

Haven't you studied the theory of relativity? There is no absolute
motion, only relative motion. The HOUSE slammed into the PLANE, which
was minding its own business on the way to an important crash.

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airplanes do not "SLAM" into anything, but then again a GRAND SLAM in
Baseball is an entirely different matter
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"Skylune" wrote in message
lkaboutaviation.com...
I agree with the "nudists", as I assume you are speaking of people. But
who knows? (Does the dead pilot qualify as a hero, do ya think? He
probably was heroically avoiding a much larger gathering of orphans or
something....)

The other data you suggest collecting would clutter up the database too
much IMO, although golf courses DO seem to be a popular alternative
landing site.

Question: If a golfer yells "fore" and then drives, hitting a small plane
buzzing the course or flying in for an off-field landing, would that
violate the FARs? Does the FAA have any jursidiction over golfers, and
how high they can hit the ball when they drive?


I have to think that this whole issue (House Slamming) would go away if
either:
1. Boyer issued a strongly worded statement opposing the slamming of GA
aircraft into homes
2. The FARs were modified to explicity outlaw slamming, crashing,
"impacting" or otherwise causing damage to properties on the ground
3. Alternatively, all private homes should be taken thru eminent domain,
and residents re-located to small portions of the country where
overflights are prohibited.

There could be other solutions to the Home Slamming problem, but we will
have to wait until a large group of people are killed on the ground
because of faulty equipment or "pilot error."

Jim Macklin wrote:
Then call your Congressman and write the NTSB. There should
also be a record of the planes that crash on ball diamonds
when nobody is there, on golf courses when nobody is
playing, in pastures and whether the field had cows, horses,
sheep, or nudists.


I want to see a federal database of all car crashes where the car hit a
house, so that we can force roads to be moved away from houses. Dang
noisy roads. Noisy cars, too.

In article
outaviation.com,
"Skylune" wrote:

What I mean is that they should put these statistics into the database. I
realize they describe the accident and the number of fatalities includes
those on the ground. I think they should add columns that include "ground
injuries, ground fatalities, ground structures damaged/destroyed" in column
in this database:

http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/Response2.asp

They already do publish the stats. Ground (non-participant) injuries
average about two per year; ground deaths average about 0.33 per year,
from GA accidents. Search "aviation, buildings & residence", accidents.

The "hazard" is insignificant, even in built-up areas. Of course,
developers really don't care about the hazards that their developments
present to aviators.