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Old October 3rd 06, 07:11 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Charles Talleyrand
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I fly a Cessna 150. My hanger is at the far end of the 11,000 foot
runway.
Our tower routinely offers landings with "long landing approved". Our
runway has distance remaining markers (and about 1,000 feet of paved
overrun space if the first 11,000 were not enough).

Is there any reason I cannot fly over the first 9,000 feet of runway
and land on the remaining 2,000 feet? The plane and pilot are capable,
I just want to know if there is a legal problem.

-Charles Talleyrand

P.S. Yes, I've tried. It's very easy to put the plane down in 2,000
feet, especially since there are no obstacles on the glideslope. With
any headwind I'm stopped within 1000 feet. And there is that
1,000 feet of overrun, which is unneeded but nice to have.

P.S. S. We have no crosswind runway. Sometimes I wish one could land
sideways on our huge piece of pavement. It's not quite wide enough,
but with a 20 mph wind ....

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Old October 3rd 06, 11:08 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Steven P. McNicoll[_1_]
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"Charles Talleyrand" wrote in message
ups.com...

I fly a Cessna 150. My hanger is at the far end of the 11,000 foot
runway.
Our tower routinely offers landings with "long landing approved". Our
runway has distance remaining markers (and about 1,000 feet of paved
overrun space if the first 11,000 were not enough).

Is there any reason I cannot fly over the first 9,000 feet of runway
and land on the remaining 2,000 feet? The plane and pilot are capable,
I just want to know if there is a legal problem.


Make sure the tower knows what your intentions are. There's no legal
problem in any case, but you may surprise him and screw up his plans for
other traffic.


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Old October 3rd 06, 01:39 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Ron Rosenfeld
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On 2 Oct 2006 23:11:05 -0700, "Charles Talleyrand"
wrote:

I fly a Cessna 150. My hanger is at the far end of the 11,000 foot
runway.
Our tower routinely offers landings with "long landing approved". Our
runway has distance remaining markers (and about 1,000 feet of paved
overrun space if the first 11,000 were not enough).

Is there any reason I cannot fly over the first 9,000 feet of runway
and land on the remaining 2,000 feet? The plane and pilot are capable,
I just want to know if there is a legal problem.

-Charles Talleyrand

P.S. Yes, I've tried. It's very easy to put the plane down in 2,000
feet, especially since there are no obstacles on the glideslope. With
any headwind I'm stopped within 1000 feet. And there is that
1,000 feet of overrun, which is unneeded but nice to have.

P.S. S. We have no crosswind runway. Sometimes I wish one could land
sideways on our huge piece of pavement. It's not quite wide enough,
but with a 20 mph wind ....



No problem at all. Just let the tower know what you are doing. I
frequently do that at KBGR when they are landing 15. GA parking is at the
other end.
Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA)
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Old October 3rd 06, 02:30 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Roy Smith
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"Charles Talleyrand" wrote:
I fly a Cessna 150. My hanger is at the far end of the 11,000 foot
runway.
Our tower routinely offers landings with "long landing approved". Our
runway has distance remaining markers (and about 1,000 feet of paved
overrun space if the first 11,000 were not enough).

Is there any reason I cannot fly over the first 9,000 feet of runway
and land on the remaining 2,000 feet? The plane and pilot are capable,
I just want to know if there is a legal problem.


Perfectly legal. That's exactly what the tower has in mind when they say
"long landing approved".
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Old October 3rd 06, 02:39 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Stubby
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Roy Smith wrote:
"Charles Talleyrand" wrote:
I fly a Cessna 150. My hanger is at the far end of the 11,000 foot
runway.
Our tower routinely offers landings with "long landing approved". Our
runway has distance remaining markers (and about 1,000 feet of paved
overrun space if the first 11,000 were not enough).

Is there any reason I cannot fly over the first 9,000 feet of runway
and land on the remaining 2,000 feet? The plane and pilot are capable,
I just want to know if there is a legal problem.


Perfectly legal. That's exactly what the tower has in mind when they say
"long landing approved".


Years ago I was having trouble learning to land. The instructor told
me to head for the airport with a 10,000 ft. "You can get in 3 landing
per pass." [As it turned out we started picking up some ice and had to
break off. But it was a good idea.]
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Old October 3rd 06, 02:56 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Paul Tomblin
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In a previous article, Stubby said:
Years ago I was having trouble learning to land. The instructor told
me to head for the airport with a 10,000 ft. "You can get in 3 landing
per pass." [As it turned out we started picking up some ice and had to


Good old instructor tricks. I was having problems learning to land on the
center line, so my instructor took me to a parachute center where he flew
jumpers. The runway was 1600 feet long and barely wider than my main
gear. Yeah, I landed on the center of that, but that also meant that I
landed with my left gear lined up with the edge of the runway. We went
back to KROC where I landed with my left wing overhanging the left edge of
the runway on a 150 foot wide runway. Not exactly what he'd hoped.

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Old October 3rd 06, 10:44 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jon Kraus
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Years ago I was having trouble learning to land. The instructor told
me to head for the airport with a 10,000 ft. "You can get in 3 landing
per pass." [As it turned out we started picking up some ice and had to
break off. But it was a good idea.]


So you were flying in the clouds (picking up some ice) before you
learned to land? Interesting, please tell us more...

Jon Kraus
'79 Mooney 201
4443H @ UMP
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Old October 4th 06, 01:20 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Stubby
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Not in the clouds.

Jon Kraus wrote:

Years ago I was having trouble learning to land. The instructor told
me to head for the airport with a 10,000 ft. "You can get in 3
landing per pass." [As it turned out we started picking up some ice
and had to break off. But it was a good idea.]


So you were flying in the clouds (picking up some ice) before you
learned to land? Interesting, please tell us more...

Jon Kraus
'79 Mooney 201
4443H @ UMP

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Old October 4th 06, 02:19 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jon Kraus
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Freezing rain then?

Stubby wrote:
Not in the clouds.

Jon Kraus wrote:


Years ago I was having trouble learning to land. The instructor
told me to head for the airport with a 10,000 ft. "You can get in 3
landing per pass." [As it turned out we started picking up some ice
and had to break off. But it was a good idea.]



So you were flying in the clouds (picking up some ice) before you
learned to land? Interesting, please tell us more...

Jon Kraus
'79 Mooney 201
4443H @ UMP

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Old October 6th 06, 12:09 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Cubdriver
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On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 09:30:14 -0400, Roy Smith wrote:

Perfectly legal. That's exactly what the tower has in mind when they say
"long landing approved".


When I am listening to the PSM tower, I often hear 'cleared for the
option'. I assume that the tower is responding to a request (which I
didn't hear) for just such an action--touch & go, landing long, etc.
Why doesn't the tower actually repeat what is approved?
 




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