PC IFR simulators

As MS Flight Sim X is fixin to be released, I am wondering if I couldn't
get a better IFR simulator for similar money? I am currently using MS
Flight Sim for help on keeping procedures fresh -- but there are a lot
of things that aren't very realistic about IFR on MSFS. I imagine since
it's so visually oriented but I don't really care about the graphics.

Any of y'all use a PC sim that you recommend?

Thanks,
Nick Kliewer PPASEL-IA

Nick Kliewer wrote:
As MS Flight Sim X is fixin to be released, I am wondering if I couldn't
get a better IFR simulator for similar money? I am currently using MS
Flight Sim for help on keeping procedures fresh -- but there are a lot
of things that aren't very realistic about IFR on MSFS. I imagine since
it's so visually oriented but I don't really care about the graphics.

Any of y'all use a PC sim that you recommend?

Thanks,
Nick Kliewer PPASEL-IA

I can only say that I blew a lot of money on ASA's On Top and IPTrainer
and never got them to work. ASA's software efforts seem to be a lot
lacking.

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Ron Natalie wrote:

Nick Kliewer wrote:
As MS Flight Sim X is fixin to be released, I am wondering if I couldn't
get a better IFR simulator for similar money? I am currently using MS
Flight Sim for help on keeping procedures fresh -- but there are a lot
of things that aren't very realistic about IFR on MSFS. I imagine since
it's so visually oriented but I don't really care about the graphics.

Any of y'all use a PC sim that you recommend?

Thanks,
Nick Kliewer PPASEL-IA

I can only say that I blew a lot of money on ASA's On Top and IPTrainer
and never got them to work. ASA's software efforts seem to be a lot
lacking.

They (or at least On Top) worked fine for me, even on my pathetic little
laptop. There was a little initial irritation with the yoke control
sensitivity, but after working out which button to hit when, it's all
worked nicely for me for a long while. Wouldn't have done my IFR
training without it.

Now if only I had a decent Windows box to run something better on... :-)

Hamish

On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 17:51:37 -0400, Ron Natalie
wrote:

Nick Kliewer wrote:
As MS Flight Sim X is fixin to be released, I am wondering if I couldn't
get a better IFR simulator for similar money? I am currently using MS
Flight Sim for help on keeping procedures fresh -- but there are a lot
of things that aren't very realistic about IFR on MSFS. I imagine since
it's so visually oriented but I don't really care about the graphics.

Any of y'all use a PC sim that you recommend?

Thanks,
Nick Kliewer PPASEL-IA

I can only say that I blew a lot of money on ASA's On Top and IPTrainer
and never got them to work. ASA's software efforts seem to be a lot
lacking.

One quick call to them and I had it working. You are probably running
into the same problem I had. Getting the joystick and rudder pedals
to work properly. I has to do with the sequence of assigning and
calibrating. I'd have to do some searching though to find what I did.
(I did type it into a doc though)

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

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Nick Kliewer wrote:

As MS Flight Sim X is fixin to be released, I am wondering if I couldn't
get a better IFR simulator for similar money? I am currently using MS
Flight Sim for help on keeping procedures fresh -- but there are a lot
of things that aren't very realistic about IFR on MSFS. I imagine since
it's so visually oriented but I don't really care about the graphics.

Any of y'all use a PC sim that you recommend?

x-plane

--
Bob Noel
Looking for a sig the
lawyers will hate

On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 18:50:23 -0400, Bob Noel
wrote:

In article ,
Nick Kliewer wrote:

As MS Flight Sim X is fixin to be released, I am wondering if I couldn't
get a better IFR simulator for similar money? I am currently using MS
Flight Sim for help on keeping procedures fresh -- but there are a lot
of things that aren't very realistic about IFR on MSFS. I imagine since
it's so visually oriented but I don't really care about the graphics.

Any of y'all use a PC sim that you recommend?

I like On-Top, but it was a bit cantankerous to get running. The fix
was simple, but I had to call them. Two minutes and they'd talked me
through it and stayed on the line until I confirmed it was working.



x-plane
Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

Look at the list of FAA training devices, they require
realistic controls. They also cost more money, start a
club.



"Nick Kliewer" wrote in message
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| As MS Flight Sim X is fixin to be released, I am wondering
if I couldn't
| get a better IFR simulator for similar money? I am
currently using MS
| Flight Sim for help on keeping procedures fresh -- but
there are a lot
| of things that aren't very realistic about IFR on MSFS. I
imagine since
| it's so visually oriented but I don't really care about
the graphics.
|
| Any of y'all use a PC sim that you recommend?
|
| Thanks,
| Nick Kliewer PPASEL-IA
|

I've been teaching IFR with Elite since version 1.0. No fancy visuals
but good fidelity. They seem to have lowered their price recently to
become more cost-competitive. ($99 fore core package.)

Ed

Nick Kliewer wrote:
As MS Flight Sim X is fixin to be released, I am wondering if I couldn't
get a better IFR simulator for similar money? I am currently using MS
Flight Sim for help on keeping procedures fresh -- but there are a lot
of things that aren't very realistic about IFR on MSFS. I imagine since
it's so visually oriented but I don't really care about the graphics.

Any of y'all use a PC sim that you recommend?

Thanks,
Nick Kliewer PPASEL-IA

wrote:
I've been teaching IFR with Elite since version 1.0. No fancy visuals
but good fidelity. They seem to have lowered their price recently to
become more cost-competitive. ($99 fore core package.)

Ed


The last time I used Elite they had that horrible (was in Morrow)
discontinued GPS navigator, that would lose all user waypoints and
flight plans when you exited the program.

Have they got a better GPS navigator now?

It seems that GPS training is now core along with ILS and VOR.

Unfortunately not. They support a 430/530 if you buy the real
hardware!

Ed
Sam Spade wrote:
wrote:
I've been teaching IFR with Elite since version 1.0. No fancy visuals
but good fidelity. They seem to have lowered their price recently to
become more cost-competitive. ($99 fore core package.)

Ed


The last time I used Elite they had that horrible (was in Morrow)
discontinued GPS navigator, that would lose all user waypoints and
flight plans when you exited the program.

Have they got a better GPS navigator now?

It seems that GPS training is now core along with ILS and VOR.