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From the latest SSA news:
"While I know this is going to sound like an excuse right up there with "The dog ate my homework assignment..." last week the Carswell house in Midlothian TX was struck by lightning (really). It blew a 10 foot hole in the roof while Dean and his wife Tammie were trying to sleep through a storm, traveled down two floors, and exited to ground along the path of his internet access. The strike essentially fried everything electrical in the house, including wiring and all computers, but fortunately caused no fire. It remains to be seen if any of the Board minutes Dean had on his hard drive are recoverable, but at least he had printed out an interim version before things blew." When I'm not flying gliders, I work with lightning stuff (typically hardening high-tech facilities and forensic issues). We have all noted a large increase in these sort of problems in recent years, and coincidentally there was an article in today's Wall Street Journal lamenting the same thing. Houses are increasingly full of expensive electronic toys that get eaten by lightning, resulting in a sharp increase in insurance claims in recent years. Oh yes, and US houses, being mostly constructed out of wooden sticks and paper, are often burned to the ground by lightning, so I guess Dean was relatively lucky. Mike (the Strike) P.S. Gliders and lightning are best kept apart! |
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Knowing the area where they live, which is out on a small ridge looking
out over teh valley that contains TSA, I can certainly believe this. I owned 40 acres about a mile east of there and our barn and 150 bales of hay were taken by a small tornado... Yeoch!!! Jack Womack |
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I can vouch for that nasty night. I live about 5 miles north of Deans
residence and it was a very nasty night, most notably one with about four hours of continuous booming and a ton of lightning. I left the house about 0430 to fly a trip, and the sky just kept lighting up. Interesting stuff! Snoop Jack wrote: Knowing the area where they live, which is out on a small ridge looking out over teh valley that contains TSA, I can certainly believe this. I owned 40 acres about a mile east of there and our barn and 150 bales of hay were taken by a small tornado... Yeoch!!! Jack Womack |
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hopfully the drive will work in another computer..
BT "Mike the Strike" wrote in message ups.com... From the latest SSA news: "While I know this is going to sound like an excuse right up there with "The dog ate my homework assignment..." last week the Carswell house in Midlothian TX was struck by lightning (really). It blew a 10 foot hole in the roof while Dean and his wife Tammie were trying to sleep through a storm, traveled down two floors, and exited to ground along the path of his internet access. The strike essentially fried everything electrical in the house, including wiring and all computers, but fortunately caused no fire. It remains to be seen if any of the Board minutes Dean had on his hard drive are recoverable, but at least he had printed out an interim version before things blew." When I'm not flying gliders, I work with lightning stuff (typically hardening high-tech facilities and forensic issues). We have all noted a large increase in these sort of problems in recent years, and coincidentally there was an article in today's Wall Street Journal lamenting the same thing. Houses are increasingly full of expensive electronic toys that get eaten by lightning, resulting in a sharp increase in insurance claims in recent years. Oh yes, and US houses, being mostly constructed out of wooden sticks and paper, are often burned to the ground by lightning, so I guess Dean was relatively lucky. Mike (the Strike) P.S. Gliders and lightning are best kept apart! |
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So wasn't it Ben Franklin that invented the fix for this problem, the
lightning rod, connected to earth ground? I've often wondered why home insurance companies don't insist on having them installed on each house they insure. And no, my house doesn't have them either. "BT" wrote in message ... hopfully the drive will work in another computer.. BT "Mike the Strike" wrote in message ups.com... From the latest SSA news: "While I know this is going to sound like an excuse right up there with "The dog ate my homework assignment..." last week the Carswell house in Midlothian TX was struck by lightning (really). It blew a 10 foot hole in the roof while Dean and his wife Tammie were trying to sleep through a storm, traveled down two floors, and exited to ground along the path of his internet access. The strike essentially fried everything electrical in the house, including wiring and all computers, but fortunately caused no fire. It remains to be seen if any of the Board minutes Dean had on his hard drive are recoverable, but at least he had printed out an interim version before things blew." When I'm not flying gliders, I work with lightning stuff (typically hardening high-tech facilities and forensic issues). We have all noted a large increase in these sort of problems in recent years, and coincidentally there was an article in today's Wall Street Journal lamenting the same thing. Houses are increasingly full of expensive electronic toys that get eaten by lightning, resulting in a sharp increase in insurance claims in recent years. Oh yes, and US houses, being mostly constructed out of wooden sticks and paper, are often burned to the ground by lightning, so I guess Dean was relatively lucky. Mike (the Strike) P.S. Gliders and lightning are best kept apart! |
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![]() Ray Roberts wrote: So wasn't it Ben Franklin that invented the fix for this problem, the lightning rod, connected to earth ground? I've often wondered why home insurance companies don't insist on having them installed on each house they insure. And no, my house doesn't have them either. "BT" wrote in message ... hopfully the drive will work in another computer.. BT "Mike the Strike" wrote in message ups.com... From the latest SSA news: "While I know this is going to sound like an excuse right up there with "The dog ate my homework assignment..." last week the Carswell house in Midlothian TX was struck by lightning (really). It blew a 10 foot hole in the roof while Dean and his wife Tammie were trying to sleep through a storm, traveled down two floors, and exited to ground along the path of his internet access. The strike essentially fried everything electrical in the house, including wiring and all computers, but fortunately caused no fire. It remains to be seen if any of the Board minutes Dean had on his hard drive are recoverable, but at least he had printed out an interim version before things blew." When I'm not flying gliders, I work with lightning stuff (typically hardening high-tech facilities and forensic issues). We have all noted a large increase in these sort of problems in recent years, and coincidentally there was an article in today's Wall Street Journal lamenting the same thing. Houses are increasingly full of expensive electronic toys that get eaten by lightning, resulting in a sharp increase in insurance claims in recent years. Oh yes, and US houses, being mostly constructed out of wooden sticks and paper, are often burned to the ground by lightning, so I guess Dean was relatively lucky. Mike (the Strike) P.S. Gliders and lightning are best kept apart! One of my customers has spikes at each roof peak, connected by chains along all ridges that continue down to grounding rods at each corner. Another customer lost a electrical appliances to a direct hit. Frank Whiteley |
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Ray Roberts wrote:
So wasn't it Ben Franklin that invented the fix for this problem, the lightning rod, connected to earth ground? I've often wondered why home insurance companies don't insist on having them installed on each house they insure. And no, my house doesn't have them either. Well over 95% of all trees struck by lightning do not leave an indication. If lightning is rarely so destructive, then why install lightning rods? Of course, older homes already had a sort of lightning rod - a cast iron sewer vent pipe. But more often struck are higher earthing conductors - AC electric wires on telephone poles. If an earth ground wire on utility poles is intact, then that is often a better (electrically shorter) path to earth. Using that paragraph, then one living in a newer home with plastic pipes and underground utilities wires may consider Franklin lightning rods (not to be confused with ESE devices). A more common path to earth through a house is incoming on AC electric wires (think of those wires as a large antenna network connected directly to each household appliance). Few who suffer appliance damage file insurance claims. Either a surge is harmlessly earthed where utility wires enter a building, or lightning finds a destructive path to earth via appliances. Most commonly damaged are appliances that connect to telephone lines because telco routinely earths a 'whole house' protector for every subscriber - installed for free. Incoming on AC electric. Through modem, portable telephone base station, or fax machine. Outgoing to earth ground via telephone line. Many instead assume this is a surge that enters via phone line. Fine. But then what was an outgoing path to earth? No outgoing path means no electricity - no damage. Why did the transient not take a shorter earthing path via a telco 'installed for free' protector? There is no stopping or blocking of lightning as plug-in protector manufacturers hope you believe. Lightning damage is made irrelevant by installing a so inexpensive and properly sized 'whole house' protector on AC mains where that wire enters the building AND earthed to same electrode used by telephone and cable TV. Effective protectors are found in Lowes, Home Depot, and electrical supply houses using responsible brand names such as Intermatic, Siemens, Cutler-Hammer, Leviton, Square D, and GE. Effective protector for a typically most destructive lightning path costs about $1 per protected appliance. That protector also does not stop or absorb anything. A protector is only as effective as its earth ground. Effective protectors make a short and temporary connection to earth. Cable TV does not need a protector since cable is earthed directly by hardwire. We still build homes as we did when transistors did not exist pre-1970. Most essential component of a protector system is earth ground. Best protected homes have lightning protection installed when footing are pour - halo or Ufer grounding. This because all lightnting protection (Franklin rods, 'whole house' protector) is only as effective as the earthing. However even upgrading household earthing to meet and exceed post 1990 National Electrical Code requirements will provide massive improvements. So again, why is this protection not routinely installed? Many believe a plug-in protector will somehow stop or absorb what 3 miles of sky could not. Number of claims submitted to insurance companies remains low. We still don't require effective lightning protection that has been made essential since 1970. Lightning striking a house via the roof is rare. Lightning directly striking household appliances is more common - typically once every seven years. A number that varies significantly even within neighborhoods. A problem made irrelevant if each incoming utility wire in each cable is earthed before it can enter the building. Effective protector earths each incoming wire so that lightning need not damage household appliance. How effective is your protection system? Protection begins with quality of a single point earth ground. |
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![]() w_tom wrote: Ray Roberts wrote: Most commonly damaged are appliances that connect to telephone lines because telco routinely earths a 'whole house' protector for every subscriber - installed for free. Incoming on AC electric. Through modem, portable telephone base station, or fax machine. Outgoing to earth ground via telephone line. Many instead assume this is a surge that enters via phone line. Fine. But then what was an outgoing path to earth? No outgoing path means no electricity - no damage. Why did the transient not take a shorter earthing path via a telco 'installed for free' protector? Current flows in a complete circuit--direction is arbitrary and irrelevant. What actually happens in many cases of applicance damage is not voltage surges, it's ground potential difference. If your power, telephone, cable TV and water services do not enter at the same point and have common grounding, they can have different "gound" potentials relative to each other. Even if lightning does not strike your house directly, it disturbs the ground potential for a large area. This is why telephones, televisions and refrigerators with ice makers are often damaged--they are connected to two different systems. |
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I was working on my computer when my neighbors house got struck - 100 feet
away. The strike went through the roof hiting the upstairs copper water pipes which set the house on fire. My neighbors were at home watching TV and reported that a fireball danced around the living room for a few seconds. Fortunately, all the pinholes blasted into the water pipes put the fire out within a minute but the total insured damage was still in excess of $50,000. My lights dimmed for a second but the computer never blinked. I use a good UPS. Bill Daniels "Doug Haluza" wrote in message ups.com... w_tom wrote: Ray Roberts wrote: Most commonly damaged are appliances that connect to telephone lines because telco routinely earths a 'whole house' protector for every subscriber - installed for free. Incoming on AC electric. Through modem, portable telephone base station, or fax machine. Outgoing to earth ground via telephone line. Many instead assume this is a surge that enters via phone line. Fine. But then what was an outgoing path to earth? No outgoing path means no electricity - no damage. Why did the transient not take a shorter earthing path via a telco 'installed for free' protector? Current flows in a complete circuit--direction is arbitrary and irrelevant. What actually happens in many cases of applicance damage is not voltage surges, it's ground potential difference. If your power, telephone, cable TV and water services do not enter at the same point and have common grounding, they can have different "gound" potentials relative to each other. Even if lightning does not strike your house directly, it disturbs the ground potential for a large area. This is why telephones, televisions and refrigerators with ice makers are often damaged--they are connected to two different systems. |
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Doug Haluza wrote:
Current flows in a complete circuit--direction is arbitrary and irrelevant. What actually happens in many cases of applicance damage is not voltage surges, it's ground potential difference. If your power, telephone, cable TV and water services do not enter at the same point and have common grounding, they can have different "gound" potentials relative to each other. Even if lightning does not strike your house directly, it disturbs the ground potential for a large area. This is why telephones, televisions and refrigerators with ice makers are often damaged--they are connected to two different systems. If the surge protector has a cable or phone jack connector in addition to the AC sockets, would that protect the TV or telephone? -- Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA Change "netto" to "net" to email me directly "Transponders in Sailplanes" on the Soaring Safety Foundation website www.soaringsafety.org/prevention/articles.html "A Guide to Self-launching Sailplane Operation" at www.motorglider.org |
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