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![]() Everybody's using checklists. I've started with the stuff from POH, plus whatever my instructor recommended, and then over time more and more little things got added to them out of experience. Yet more things got added as I started my instrument training. The basic stuff is probably not so interesting since it is everywhere. What is indeed interesting, I think, is those little things that other people may have in their checklists that I don't have -- stuff that's grown out of individual mistakes. Often you can arrange things in such a way that it makes making a mistake more difficult and so on. I'm going to proceed and publish here some of my C172 checklists. If that turns out to be interesting, I also have my RG/complex checklists for Cutlass. Hope this is going to result in a fruitful exchange of information... Andrey ============================================== C172 PRE-FLIGHT 1. hobbs record 2. inspections check 3. ARROW check 4. windows check clean 5. control lock remove 6. parking brake set 7. avionics verify off 8. master on 9. fuel gauges check indication 10. flaps down 11. turn coordinator check no flag 12. pitot heat check 13. lights check 14. master off 15. trim visually check 16. fuel selector both 17. key verify removed POST-FLIGHT 1. avionics off 2. ignition ground check 3. mixture cut-off 4. landing light check 5. master off 6. key remove 7. fuel selector left 8. trim for take-off 9. control lock set 10. all lights verify off 11. hobbs record 12. flight plan close ENGINE START 1. pre-flight complete 2. pax briefed 3. seat belts secure 4. brakes check pressure 5. mixture rich 6. fuel selector both 7. throttle 1/8 8. carb heat off 9. nav light & beacon on 10. avionics verify off 11. prime as required 12. master on 13. clear prop call 14. ignition engage 15. throttle 800-1000 rpm 16. oil pressure/temp check 17. vacuum check 18. ammeter check 19. lights on 20. circuit breakers check 21. avionics on PRE-TAXI 1. altimeter set 2. ATIS receive 3. altimeter reset 4. DG align with compass 5. AI set level 6. alt static/VSI check 7. comm 1,2 check 8. mkr lights check 9. transponder test 10. vor 1,2 test 11. adf test 12. comm/nav set as required 13. transponder standby VFR 14. trim verify for t/o 15. flaps up 16. fuel selector left 17. clearance receive 18. transponder set as required 19. taxi light on 20. parking brake release 21. brakes check TAXI 1. turn coordinator verify 2. DG verify 3. compass verify 4. AI verify 5. controls position for wind RUNUP 1. nose straight 2. parking brake set 3. taxi light off 4. controls free and correct 5. 6-pack check 6. avionics set as required 7. mixture rich 8. fuel selector right 9. throttle 1700 rpm 10. oil pressure/temp check 11. vacuum check 12. ammeter check under load 13. magnetos check 14. carb heat check 15. idle check 16. fuel selector both 17. primer verify locked PRE-TAKE-OFF 1. mixture as required 2. fuel selector both 3. carb heat off 4. primer locked 5. flaps as required 6. trim for t/o 7. take-off briefing complete BRIEFING: 1. rotation speed 2. best glide speed 3. runway required 4. runway available 5. engine quits: a. before rotation - abort take-off b. below 800' agl - land straigt ahead +/- 30deg c. above 800' agl - turn (which way) for landing on (which) runway 8. seat belts secure 9. doors & windows locked TAKE-OFF 1. landing light on 2. strobes on 3. transponder mode C 4. DG verify runway heading 5. time note 6. engine rpm verify full power 7. oil pressure/temp in the green 8. airspeed alive PRE-LANDING 1. mixture rich 2. fuel selector both 3. primer locked 4. landing light on 5. seat belts secure 6. brakes check pressure 7. carb heat as required 8. flaps as required POST-LANDING 1. carb heat off 2. flaps up 3. transponder standby 4. landing light off 5. strobes off 6. time note ============================================== |
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Wow, you've made flying incredibly difficult. And here for VFR flying I
don't need a checklist. There's nothing that, if missed, will kill you. My only assumption is I don't forget to do the runup the first flight of the day. Andrey Serbinenko wrote: Everybody's using checklists. I've started with the stuff from POH, plus whatever my instructor recommended, and then over time more and more little things got added to them out of experience. Yet more things got added as I started my instrument training. The basic stuff is probably not so interesting since it is everywhere. What is indeed interesting, I think, is those little things that other people may have in their checklists that I don't have -- stuff that's grown out of individual mistakes. Often you can arrange things in such a way that it makes making a mistake more difficult and so on. I'm going to proceed and publish here some of my C172 checklists. If that turns out to be interesting, I also have my RG/complex checklists for Cutlass. Hope this is going to result in a fruitful exchange of information... Andrey ============================================== C172 PRE-FLIGHT 1. hobbs record 2. inspections check 3. ARROW check 4. windows check clean 5. control lock remove 6. parking brake set 7. avionics verify off 8. master on 9. fuel gauges check indication 10. flaps down 11. turn coordinator check no flag 12. pitot heat check 13. lights check 14. master off 15. trim visually check 16. fuel selector both 17. key verify removed POST-FLIGHT 1. avionics off 2. ignition ground check 3. mixture cut-off 4. landing light check 5. master off 6. key remove 7. fuel selector left 8. trim for take-off 9. control lock set 10. all lights verify off 11. hobbs record 12. flight plan close ENGINE START 1. pre-flight complete 2. pax briefed 3. seat belts secure 4. brakes check pressure 5. mixture rich 6. fuel selector both 7. throttle 1/8 8. carb heat off 9. nav light & beacon on 10. avionics verify off 11. prime as required 12. master on 13. clear prop call 14. ignition engage 15. throttle 800-1000 rpm 16. oil pressure/temp check 17. vacuum check 18. ammeter check 19. lights on 20. circuit breakers check 21. avionics on PRE-TAXI 1. altimeter set 2. ATIS receive 3. altimeter reset 4. DG align with compass 5. AI set level 6. alt static/VSI check 7. comm 1,2 check 8. mkr lights check 9. transponder test 10. vor 1,2 test 11. adf test 12. comm/nav set as required 13. transponder standby VFR 14. trim verify for t/o 15. flaps up 16. fuel selector left 17. clearance receive 18. transponder set as required 19. taxi light on 20. parking brake release 21. brakes check TAXI 1. turn coordinator verify 2. DG verify 3. compass verify 4. AI verify 5. controls position for wind RUNUP 1. nose straight 2. parking brake set 3. taxi light off 4. controls free and correct 5. 6-pack check 6. avionics set as required 7. mixture rich 8. fuel selector right 9. throttle 1700 rpm 10. oil pressure/temp check 11. vacuum check 12. ammeter check under load 13. magnetos check 14. carb heat check 15. idle check 16. fuel selector both 17. primer verify locked PRE-TAKE-OFF 1. mixture as required 2. fuel selector both 3. carb heat off 4. primer locked 5. flaps as required 6. trim for t/o 7. take-off briefing complete BRIEFING: 1. rotation speed 2. best glide speed 3. runway required 4. runway available 5. engine quits: a. before rotation - abort take-off b. below 800' agl - land straigt ahead +/- 30deg c. above 800' agl - turn (which way) for landing on (which) runway 8. seat belts secure 9. doors & windows locked TAKE-OFF 1. landing light on 2. strobes on 3. transponder mode C 4. DG verify runway heading 5. time note 6. engine rpm verify full power 7. oil pressure/temp in the green 8. airspeed alive PRE-LANDING 1. mixture rich 2. fuel selector both 3. primer locked 4. landing light on 5. seat belts secure 6. brakes check pressure 7. carb heat as required 8. flaps as required POST-LANDING 1. carb heat off 2. flaps up 3. transponder standby 4. landing light off 5. strobes off 6. time note ============================================== |
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On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 12:01:20 -0700, Newps wrote
in : And here for VFR flying I don't need a checklist. What's so unique about your location? Obviously our regard for the necessity of checklists differ. You'll find an Adobe Acrobat copy of my Piper PA28-235 checklist he http://www.dauntless-soft.com/PRODUC...info.asp?ID=29 Below is an unformatted copy: Piper PA28-235 Check List L. G. Dighera © June 21, 1999 Preflight Check Squawks: note equipment complaints Time: record Hobbs reading Control wheel: release belts Headset: jacks in, batteries: check Avionics: off Master switch: on Fuel quantity gages: check (Sunrise: 122.85MHz; 851-5061) Master switch: off Ignition: check Mags OFF (keys on top of control panel) Flaps: fully extended Fuel strainer: drain Exterior: check for damage, wrinkles, oil-caning Control surfaces: check for interference free of ice, snow, frost Hinges: check for pins, interference Wings: free of ice, snow, frost Stall warning: check Light Lights: operational (nav, ldg, beacon, strobes, inst, cabin) Fuel tanks: check supply visually, secure caps Fuel tank sumps: drain and check for water, sediment, and proper fuel (80/87 red, 100LL blue) Fuel vents: open Main gear struts: proper inflation (4.5 inches, 2" @ 2900 lbs) Tires: check wear, slippage, inflation (35-40 PSI) Brakes: check blocks, red fluid leak Pitot head: remove cover, holes clear Windshield: clean Propeller and spinner: check nicks, cracks, leaks, secure Fuel and oil, check for leaks Oil: Check level (add a quart if below 8.5 quarts, 12 qt max) Dipstick: properly seated (50 W + additive, or 15-50 W) cowling: secure Inspection covers: secure Nose wheel ti check wear, slippage on rim, (28-30 PSI) Nose gear strut: proper inflation (3.5 inches) Air inlets & filter: clear Alternator belt: check tension Pitot cover: remove Exhaust plug: remove Tow-bar: secure Baggage: stowed properly, secure Baggage door: locked (CCW) Flaps: retract, to support step weight Primary flight controls: proper operation Cabin door: closed and secure (top latch first) Required papers: on board Seat belts and harness: fasten/adjust, check inertia reel Weight and C. G. computation VOT: check log or test (110.0 MHz, 180/TO, 360/FROM) Before Starting Engine Pre-flight inspection: complete ATIS: copy (126.00 MHz) [Corona AWAS: 132.175 MHz] Altimeter: check +/- 75 feet of airport elevation [SNA: 54', Corona: 533'] Clearance: copy (VFR: 121.85 MHz, IFR: 118.0 MHz) Radios set: [Corona CTAF: 122.8 MHz] COM1: GND: 120.8, TWR: 126.8 Transponder: beacon sqwak code ADF: (MAAGG: 337 KHz) Aircraft: pulled out Parking break: set Starting Engine Tow-bar: stowed Radio power switches: off Auto-pilot: off Mixtu full rich (unless flooded) Prop: forward (high RPM) Throttle: 1/8-1/4 inch open if flooded, full open Carburetor heat: off (in) Primer: cold engine: 1-5 shots hot engine: pump throttle 3-4 quick, short strokes Master switch: on Fuel selector: second fullest tank Electric fuel pump: on until pressure (unless flooded) Clear area: verbal “CLEAR” and visual check: Starter button: one revolution Mag switch: Left magneto (impulse coupled) Starter button: engage (5 to 10 seconds maximum) Mag switch: Both Throttle: adjust 800 RPM Oil Pressu check (green arc in 30 seconds, or shutdown) Anti-collision light: on (day) Radio power switches: on Electric fuel pump: off Limit ground operation: above 70° F 2 minutes, below 4 min Taxiing Area: clear behind and in front Mixtu lean to 2-1/2 inches out (to minimize lead fouling) Brakes: release Throttle: 1000 RPM Steering: check Bakes: check Collision avoidance: observe shadows At first turn check: attitude indicator: stable turn coordinator: ball free opposite turn, tube full turn indication toward turn heading indicator: operational, stable compass: card free, fluid full Do not operate at high RPM over loose stones Ground Check (Run-up) Parking brake: set Electric fuel pump: verify off Prop: in (high RPM) Throttle: 2150 RPM Fuel pressu green Fuel selector: switch to fullest tank (not mogas) Fuel pressu green Magnetos: (minimize operation on one mag) Max: drop 125 RPM, difference 50 RPM To remove carbon from plugs: Magneto switch to BOTH full throttle lean mixture to maximum RPM and enrichen (or 100° F rich of peak) run for one minute, check mags. Prop: cycle 3 times Carburetor heat: check RPM drop or increase Vacuum: 5.0 In Hg, +/- 0.1 In Hg Ammeter: check (cycle landing light, note load indication) Oil temperatu green Oil pressu green Retard throttle, idle check 650 RPM Before Takeoff Master switch: on Flight instruments: set (AI, DG, VSI, Alt, clock) Fuel selector: verify on fullest tank (not mogas) Electric fuel pump: on Engine gages: check oil pres. & temp. fuel pres. Carburetor heat: off Prop: in (high RPM) Mixtu Full Rich Or, lean for best power: oil temperature in green, advance to full throttle, lean mixture to maximum RPM (2275-2375? static) and enrichen, or 125° F rich of peak Primer: locked Flaps: set Trim tabs: set (to “T”) Controls: free and correct, autopilot off Seat backs: erect Seat belts, shoulder straps: buckled Empty seats: belts securely fastened Doors: latched (top latch first) Radios: set Fuses: check (tight, spares) Transponder: on Altitude Lights: as required Engine is warm for takeoff when the throttle can be opened without engine skipping or backfiring, and without reduction in oil pressure. Takeoff Electric fuel pump: verify on Flaps: set normal: 0° short/soft field: 25° (2nd notch) Trim tabs: set according to CG loading (T) Landing light: on Transponder: on Altitude Control wheel: normal: forward pressure for cross wind short field: neutral soft field: back pressure, nose high Time-off: note Throttle: apply full throttle normal: smoothly short field: while brakes locked soft field: slowly as acceleration proceeds Heading indicator: check runway heading Suction: 5.0 In Hg, +/- 0.1 In Hg Ammeter: charging ( 0 indication) Accelerate to: normal: 65-70 MPH* short/soft field: 55-65 MPH* Ease control wheel back to rotate to climb attitude Accelerate in ground-effect to: normal: 100 MPH short/soft field: 90 MPH Flaps: if extended, slowly retract Electric fuel pump: off 1500 ft AGL, check fuel pressure * Speeds vary with weight loading Climb normal: 100 MPH (115 MPH for visibility and cooling) short field: 90 MPH Vx (best angle) * clear obstacle then climb at 100 MPH Vy (best rate) * soft field: 100 MPH Vy (best rate) * Electric fuel pump: off at 1500 AGL * Speeds will be reduced at less than gross weight Cruising Normal maximum power: 75% (2400 RPM $ 23.7" mp) Mixtu lean above 5000 feet until rough then enrichen until smooth, 100° F rich of peak EGT (best power), or 1500° F, or lean for peak EGT or roughness onset (best economy) Switching tanks: electric fuel pump on before & 30 sec after. Burn inboard tanks first. Do not run tanks completely dry in flight. Turbulent air: reduce speed to 138 MPH (Va), or less, if below maximum gross weight. Descent Normal: throttle: plan to reduce MP 1 inch per minute airspeed: as required mixtu enrichen Carburetor heat: full on, if required Power off: Carburetor heat: full on, if required throttle: closed airspeed: as required mixtu leaned as required power: verify with throttle every 30 seconds Approach and Landing (GUMPS) Seat backs: erect Belts/harness: fasten/adjust Mixtu rich (in) Propeller: high RPM, (in) Throttle: as required to maintain speed & descent (15-18") Carburetor heat: off (unless icing is suspected) Electric fuel pump: on Fuel selector: fullest tank Flaps: extend (115 MPH maximum speed): normal: full (40°) windy: little or none (0-25°) Trim: 90 MPH, (set to L) (higher, if wind shear suspected) Final approach speed (flaps 40°): 55-65 MPH After ground contact: flaps up hold nose wheel off, then lower nose gear apply brakes with weight on main gear Stopping Engine Flaps: verify retracted Electric fuel pump: off Radios: off Lights, and other electrical equipment: off Throttle: closed Ground lead check: key to OFF momentarily observe 200 RPM drop key to BOTH Mixtu idle cut-off Magnetos: off (keys on top of control panel) Master switch: off Oil fill door: open for cooling Parking Fuel: fill all tanks, and oil above 9 qt. (Aero 100, 50 W SAE) Sunrise: 122.85, (714) 851-5061 Stop with nose wheel on taxi way center line Use tow-bar to steer aircraft to tie-down position Push aircraft near hub of propeller Wheels: chocked Tie-downs: secure Propeller: vertical for fueling (normal rotation; finger tips only, for safety) Tow-bar: stow Flaps: fully retracted Fuel valve: off Parking brake: set Time: enter Hobbs and Tachometer readings in book Squawk: inoperative equipment in book Window: latched closed Vents: closed (4 seat, 1 dash, 1 roof, 1 cabin air) Control wheel: secured with belts Seat belts: fastened, shoulder belt stowed Cabin: clean, all articles removed Radio power switches: verify all off Verify MASTER SWITCH OFF Cabin and baggage doors: locked (CCW) Oil fill door: close Pitot cover & exhaust plug: installed Cabin cover: installed Flight Plan Closed |
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![]() Newps wrote: Wow, you've made flying incredibly difficult. And here for VFR flying I don't need a checklist. There's nothing that, if missed, will kill you. My only assumption is I don't forget to do the runup the first flight of the day. I recall that attitudes like that have caused many unnecessary incidents/accidents. To each his own. |
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Duncan (NZ) wrote:
13. clear prop call who does that achieve these days - why "call it"? - just look around (what else is required). What purpose does calling it out achieve to those in the plane. I feel it's antiquated. I just have a good look around (the *outside*) to see that no-one is near to walk into the thing when it's spinning. I call OUT the storm window, not to anyone inside. I see it as a courtesy to those who may be near enough to catch the breeze or debris. I can't see behind my plane, so you never know. Maybe it's not a life or death thing, but what can it hurt? |
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On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 20:09:49 GMT, B A R R Y
wrote: Duncan (NZ) wrote: 13. clear prop call who does that achieve these days - why "call it"? - just look around (what else is required). What purpose does calling it out achieve to those in the plane. I feel it's antiquated. I just have a good look around (the *outside*) to see that no-one is near to walk into the thing when it's spinning. I call OUT the storm window, not to anyone inside. I see it as a courtesy to those who may be near enough to catch the breeze or debris. I can't see behind my plane, so you never know. Maybe it's not a life or death thing, but what can it hurt? I try to vary it. GESUNDHEIT! FORE! BINGO! L'CHAIM! are equally effective. Especially on the newer Piper. I haven't mastered doing the turn-and-push on the mag switch to engage the starter with my left hand, so I do it with my right, while my left hand's on the throttle. That leaves my mouth about two feet from the tiny storm window, which is, often as not, blocked by the AirScoop. But it keeps the elephants away. That's what I tell passengers. Don |
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![]() "Don Tuite" wrote I try to vary it. GESUNDHEIT! FORE! BINGO! L'CHAIM! are equally effective. I prefer "LOOK OUT!!!" bds |
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BDS wrote:
I prefer "LOOK OUT!!!" Or just in case the flight ends badly and you want to give us something to talk about. "Watch This" |
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B A R R Y wrote:
I call OUT the storm window, not to anyone inside. That's why we call it the "clear prop window". Not much good for anything else. |
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