A aviation & planes forum. AviationBanter

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.

Go Back   Home » AviationBanter forum » Aviation Images » Aviation Photos
Site Map Home Register Authors List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Web Partners

Wings, Wires, and Watercolors-001 index



 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old March 16th 07, 05:57 PM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
Joe Gertler
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 6
Default Wings, Wires, and Watercolors-001 index

Dear Sir; I paid a handsome sum for the copyrights (and the
originals) of these Charles Hubbel paintings. These are "registered'
copyrights with all the legal papers, signed by Hubbell's son. I have
these images posted on my website with the notice that they are not
to be copied or posted elsewhere without written permission. My
website has the "right click to copy" feature blocked. This is for
ALL of the Charles Hubbell art on my website, including watercolors,
pen & ink, Oil paintings, pencil sketches and caseins, etc. O do NOT
like to see you posting them for copying, so they wilL soon appear on
Ebay, posted as "prints for sale" by someone who has NOT paid for
this right. as I have..Please respond by taking sown these images.
They jeopadize a significant investment I have in them.
  #2  
Old March 16th 07, 10:26 PM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
Paul Stewart
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 10
Default Wings, Wires, and Watercolors-001 index

It's his M.O. - he post other peoples material with no regard for copyrights
or laws . . .

Sue him or screw him!

Hello, Joe!
You wrote on Fri, 16 Mar 2007 17:57:01 GMT:

JG Dear Sir; I paid a handsome sum for the copyrights (and the
JG originals) of these Charles Hubbel paintings. These are "registered'
JG copyrights with all the legal papers, signed by Hubbell's son. I
JG have
JG these images posted on my website with the notice that they are not
JG to be copied or posted elsewhere without written permission. My
JG website has the "right click to copy" feature blocked. This is for
JG ALL of the Charles Hubbell art on my website, including watercolors,
JG pen & ink, Oil paintings, pencil sketches and caseins, etc. O do NOT
JG like to see you posting them for copying, so they wilL soon appear
JG on
JG Ebay, posted as "prints for sale" by someone who has NOT paid for
JG this right. as I have..Please respond by taking sown these images.
JG They jeopadize a significant investment I have in them.


  #3  
Old March 17th 07, 01:12 AM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
Ray O'Hara
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 218
Default Wings, Wires, and Watercolors-001 index


"Paul Stewart" wrote in message
...
It's his M.O. - he post other peoples material with no regard for

copyrights
or laws . . .

Sue him or screw him!


or even giving credit where its due. he likes to pretend they come from an
extensive collection in his posession rather than from hours of net
surfing.


  #4  
Old March 17th 07, 02:25 AM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
Don Pyeatt
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 378
Default Wings, Wires, and Watercolors-001 index


"Ray O'Hara" wrote in message
...

"Paul Stewart" wrote in message
...
It's his M.O. - he post other peoples material with no regard for

copyrights
or laws . . .

Sue him or screw him!


or even giving credit where its due. he likes to pretend they come from an
extensive collection in his posession rather than from hours of net
surfing.



I have posted many unique, never-seen photos here before, always diligent to
credit the material to its owner only to find them later in a "collection"
with all credit info conveniently omitted. I have gobs of similar items
that will likely never be seen outside of my computer screen for this very
reason.

gdp


Attachment: Chance Vought decal, circa 1945 via Ed Calvert collection.




Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	CVoughtDecal.jpg
Views:	29
Size:	122.4 KB
ID:	8209  
  #5  
Old March 19th 07, 05:34 PM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
Joe Gertler
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 6
Default Wings, Wires, and Watercolors-001 index

"Ray O'Hara" wrote in
:


"Paul Stewart" wrote in message
...
It's his M.O. - he post other peoples material with no regard for

copyrights
or laws . . .

Sue him or screw him!


Can anyone help me to find Mitchell Holman's legal address? Since the
images have not been deleted, I would like to have my attorney handle the
matter from here. Usually copying an image or two is not worth pursuing.
But Holman's unauthorized use of at least 44 items,represents potential
damage to a six-figure investment, and to those registered-copyrights of
considerable value.
  #6  
Old March 19th 07, 05:48 PM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
Steve Vernon
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 35
Default Wings, Wires, and Watercolors-001 index

you may not know this, but you can't delete anything from a newsgroup.

Steve

"Joe Gertler" wrote in message
. 120...
"Ray O'Hara" wrote in
:


"Paul Stewart" wrote in message
...
It's his M.O. - he post other peoples material with no regard for

copyrights
or laws . . .

Sue him or screw him!


Can anyone help me to find Mitchell Holman's legal address? Since the
images have not been deleted, I would like to have my attorney handle the
matter from here. Usually copying an image or two is not worth pursuing.
But Holman's unauthorized use of at least 44 items,represents potential
damage to a six-figure investment, and to those registered-copyrights of
considerable value.





Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	DSCF0900.JPG
Views:	27
Size:	664.4 KB
ID:	8249  
  #7  
Old March 20th 07, 03:11 AM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
Daryl Bryant[_2_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 21
Default Wings, Wires, and Watercolors-001 index

"Steve Vernon" wrote in message
. ..
you may not know this, but you can't delete anything from a newsgroup.


Actually YOU can delete your own post but no one else can - u wuld use a
control message in the header eg.
Control: cancel



  #8  
Old March 19th 07, 06:52 PM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
Enzo Matrix
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 64
Default Wings, Wires, and Watercolors-001 index

Joe Gertler wrote:
"Ray O'Hara" wrote in
:


"Paul Stewart" wrote in message
...
It's his M.O. - he post other peoples material with no regard for
copyrights or laws . . .

Sue him or screw him!


Can anyone help me to find Mitchell Holman's legal address? Since the
images have not been deleted, I would like to have my attorney handle
the matter from here.


The problem is that this is usenet, not a website. If it were a website, Mr
Holman could actually delete the images as you asked. On usenet that isn't
actually possible. Mr Holman could issue a cancel message for each of the
posts, but that won't guarantee that the posts will actually get wiped from
usenet servers. Some servers simply don't accept cancels. With usenet, once
a post is out there, it is effectively out there for ever.

I can understand how you would be annoyed about unauthorised use of your
images, however I would suggest that the damage to your business is probably
minimal. The images as posted here were simply not of a high enough
resolution or quality to be printed out and sold.

--
Enzo

I wear the cheese. It does not wear me.



  #9  
Old March 20th 07, 01:43 AM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
Joe Gertler
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 6
Default Wings, Wires, and Watercolors-001 index

"Enzo Matrix" wrote in


The problem is that this is usenet, not a website. If it were a
website, Mr Holman could actually delete the images as you asked. On
usenet that isn't actually possible. Mr Holman could issue a cancel
message for each of the posts, but that won't guarantee that the posts
will actually get wiped from usenet servers. Some servers simply don't
accept cancels. With usenet, once a post is out there, it is
effectively out there for ever.

I can understand how you would be annoyed about unauthorised use of
your images, however I would suggest that the damage to your business
is probably minimal. The images as posted here were simply not of a
high enough resolution or quality to be printed out and sold.


Thank you for that information, Enzo (and others). It is reassuring. And
thanks to all for your comments, including Luke whose comments I
cannot/would not argue with. Well, Most of them, anyway...
This is not your problem. I should have sought professional advice on
such a matter. My sincere (NOT sacrcastic) apologies for ruffling any
feathers. Please do not trouble yourselves with further discussion, and
return to your enjoyment of aviation images.
  #10  
Old March 19th 07, 09:06 PM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
Luke[_2_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 10
Default Wings, Wires, and Watercolors-001 index


"Joe Gertler" wrote in message
. 120...

Can anyone help me to find Mitchell Holman's legal address?



Here is your shopping list:

1) Get a life.
2) Get an education on how Usenet actually works.
3) Get your own damn private investigator. You want us to help you
try to burn a regular here? LOL
4) Get a lawyer to explain the actuall prosecutability of your
complaint.
5) Get a grip. These puny 200dpi scans don't represent a real threat
to the profitability of your "six figure invetment".
6) Get out your checkbook... Pursuing this complaint will only ensure
you loose more than you collect.


Luke


 




Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Wings, Wires, and Watercolors - 001index.jpg (1/1) Mitchell Holman[_2_] Aviation Photos 1 March 16th 07 06:17 PM
Wings, Wires, and Watercolors - First Airmail.jpg (1/1) Mitchell Holman[_2_] Aviation Photos 0 March 1st 07 04:14 AM
Wings, Wires, and Watercolors - Curtiss Falcon.jpg (1/1) Mitchell Holman[_2_] Aviation Photos 0 March 1st 07 04:14 AM
Wings, Wires, and Watercolors - 002index.jpg (1/1) Mitchell Holman[_2_] Aviation Photos 0 March 1st 07 04:13 AM
Wings, Wires, and Watercolors - 001index.jpg (0/1) Mitchell Holman[_2_] Aviation Photos 0 March 1st 07 04:13 AM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 08:20 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004-2025 AviationBanter.
The comments are property of their posters.