Just a question

Just a question to start some dialog. How many of you thank that we
actually landed on the moon and had the technology to do so in 1969. Keep
it friendly.

J. Fields, USAF Retired

"J.F." wrote in news:RwpTh.7944$u03.1129
@newssvr21.news.prodigy.net:

Just a question to start some dialog.


In a binaries group?


How many of you thank that we
actually landed on the moon and had the technology to do so in 1969. Keep
it friendly.

J. Fields, USAF Retired



Astronomers continue to bounce laser beams off the
reflectors that were left on the moon. Yes, the lunar
landings were real.


http://www.csr.utexas.edu/mlrs/

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/s...1c13laser.html

Yes I know that this is a binaries group and I have posted several pictures
in here. Take a look at this website
http://mrbasheer.tripod.com/moonwalk.htm Its enough to make people believe
that no one has ever been on the moon.


"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
...
"J.F." wrote in news:RwpTh.7944$u03.1129
@newssvr21.news.prodigy.net:

Just a question to start some dialog.


In a binaries group?


How many of you thank that we
actually landed on the moon and had the technology to do so in 1969.
Keep
it friendly.

J. Fields, USAF Retired



Astronomers continue to bounce laser beams off the
reflectors that were left on the moon. Yes, the lunar
landings were real.


http://www.csr.utexas.edu/mlrs/

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/s...1c13laser.html

On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 13:31:38 GMT, "J.F."
wrote:

Yes I know that this is a binaries group and I have posted several pictures
in here. Take a look at this website
http://mrbasheer.tripod.com/moonwalk.htm Its enough to make people believe
that no one has ever been on the moon.

The first two pictures (questions) at that website are easily
explained.

If you saw the movie of the flag you would notice that it is not
"fluttering" but in a fixed position. It is placed that way so that
you can see it is the U.S. flag. If you do a search for pictures of
that first landing on the moon, you will notice that the flag is
*always* "fluttering" in the same position. Now *that* would be a
trick to pull on earth.

Shadows? Measure the shadows of legs of the two men. Those are
equal. One shadow may be longer due to the flag being in the picture.
And if one shadow IS longer than the other, how could that trick be
done on earth.

As previously stated, we are still aiming lasers at the moon and
getting back reflections from devices placed there by astronauts.

Dave LaCourse wrote:



Shadows? Measure the shadows of legs of the two men. Those are
equal. One shadow may be longer due to the flag being in the picture.
And if one shadow IS longer than the other, how could that trick be
done on earth.


It looks as if the ground they are on is not flat.And as for shadows
of different angles, it looks to be a normal effect
(distortion/pincushion/barrel)achieved with such a wide angle lens being
used. Better panoramas are done with a telephoto lens (seperate shots)
and stuck together.

The disappearing crosshair is just because the item is catching so much
bright sunlight.

In article ,
"J.F." wrote:

Yes I know that this is a binaries group and I have posted several pictures
in here. Take a look at this website
http://mrbasheer.tripod.com/moonwalk.htm Its enough to make people believe
that no one has ever been on the moon.

It's enough to make feeble-minded conspiracy nutjobs believe no one has
ever been on the moon.

Here's another website you might like:

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/

--
One is always considered mad when one perfects something that others can
not grasp.*- Ed Wood

"J.F." wrote in message
t...
Yes I know that this is a binaries group and I have posted several
pictures in here. Take a look at this website
http://mrbasheer.tripod.com/moonwalk.htm Its enough to make people
believe that no one has ever been on the moon.



Hardly.
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"J.F." wrote in
t:

Yes I know that this is a binaries group and I have posted several
pictures in here. Take a look at this website
http://mrbasheer.tripod.com/moonwalk.htm Its enough to make people
believe that no one has ever been on the moon.


Only because people are fatuous and not very bright all around.
Does your newspaper have an astrology section? Do you get to see psychics
on your TV?

But if it helps, go to http://www.clavius.org/,
http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/tv/foxapollo.html,
http://www.iangoddard.net/moon01.htm, and http://www.apollo-
hoax.me.uk/strangeshadows.html . Just a start.

Your example site might be a little more convincing if the
webmaster (I use the term loosely), bothered to use larger and more
detailed jpegs and not try to obscure the detail within them. All of the
pics, after all, are readily available directly from NASA's sites.

Should you take a look at the situation with the same critical eye
that is required in court cases, you find you have to be able to produce
means, motive, and opportunity for any conspiracy theory as well.
Opportunity, in cases like this, can also include practicality.

NASA is a government-funded private organization. The moon project
was pretty much locked in - they had the funding regardless of whether it
was feasible or not, and required no public displays to convince
Congress. If they wanted to continue funding, they almost certainly would
have found a lot more of interest "on the moon" than they did, and not
let the project die after Apollo 17.

And if you're going to fake something, some things you probably
should not do:

1. Involve half a million subcontracter employees in about seven
different states;

2. Display virtually every aspect of the program publicly, up to
and including live transmissions that have to originate with stations in
England and Australia (whose radio antennas were pointed at, three
guesses now?);

3. Perform every last one of your launches, including tests, from
the edges of populated areas with broad public visibility;

4. Perform your recoveries with the assistance of the US Navy and
several thousand witnesses aboard the recovery ships;

5. Freely distribute and display your information to the public for
the next several decades.

And that's just a start. Do you think NASA also paid off the Soviet
Union, who were tracking each of the flights? Launched the Saturn Vs
simply to deorbit them in the middle of the ocean somewhere (and saved
the cost of only a portion of the fuel and the lander itself, which still
had to be a convincing model for the subcontracters)? Constructed a huge
vacuum chamber so the faked lunar dust would behave properly (something
still beyond our capabilities)?

Do you really believe that, with so much effort in creating this
elaborate facade of the moon, they'd let through video displaying an
errant breeze blowing the flag? Or, for some completely ridiculous
reason, paste part of their equipment image over top of the crosshairs?

Does it strike you as strange that, among the many hundreds to
thousands of people who would have to be in on the conspiracy, not one,
not ONE, has come forth to give details? Seems like that should be a cash
cow, don't you think?

Don't you think?


- Al.

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Thanks for the friendly response...
"Al Denelsbeck" wrote in message
46.128...
"J.F." wrote in
t:

Yes I know that this is a binaries group and I have posted several
pictures in here. Take a look at this website
http://mrbasheer.tripod.com/moonwalk.htm Its enough to make people
believe that no one has ever been on the moon.


Only because people are fatuous and not very bright all around.
Does your newspaper have an astrology section? Do you get to see psychics
on your TV?

But if it helps, go to http://www.clavius.org/,
http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/tv/foxapollo.html,
http://www.iangoddard.net/moon01.htm, and http://www.apollo-
hoax.me.uk/strangeshadows.html . Just a start.

Your example site might be a little more convincing if the
webmaster (I use the term loosely), bothered to use larger and more
detailed jpegs and not try to obscure the detail within them. All of the
pics, after all, are readily available directly from NASA's sites.

Should you take a look at the situation with the same critical eye
that is required in court cases, you find you have to be able to produce
means, motive, and opportunity for any conspiracy theory as well.
Opportunity, in cases like this, can also include practicality.

NASA is a government-funded private organization. The moon project
was pretty much locked in - they had the funding regardless of whether it
was feasible or not, and required no public displays to convince
Congress. If they wanted to continue funding, they almost certainly would
have found a lot more of interest "on the moon" than they did, and not
let the project die after Apollo 17.

And if you're going to fake something, some things you probably
should not do:

1. Involve half a million subcontracter employees in about seven
different states;

2. Display virtually every aspect of the program publicly, up to
and including live transmissions that have to originate with stations in
England and Australia (whose radio antennas were pointed at, three
guesses now?);

3. Perform every last one of your launches, including tests, from
the edges of populated areas with broad public visibility;

4. Perform your recoveries with the assistance of the US Navy and
several thousand witnesses aboard the recovery ships;

5. Freely distribute and display your information to the public for
the next several decades.

And that's just a start. Do you think NASA also paid off the Soviet
Union, who were tracking each of the flights? Launched the Saturn Vs
simply to deorbit them in the middle of the ocean somewhere (and saved
the cost of only a portion of the fuel and the lander itself, which still
had to be a convincing model for the subcontracters)? Constructed a huge
vacuum chamber so the faked lunar dust would behave properly (something
still beyond our capabilities)?

Do you really believe that, with so much effort in creating this
elaborate facade of the moon, they'd let through video displaying an
errant breeze blowing the flag? Or, for some completely ridiculous
reason, paste part of their equipment image over top of the crosshairs?

Does it strike you as strange that, among the many hundreds to
thousands of people who would have to be in on the conspiracy, not one,
not ONE, has come forth to give details? Seems like that should be a cash
cow, don't you think?

Don't you think?


- Al.

--
To reply, insert dash in address to separate G and I in the domain

"J.F." wrote in message
t...

Yes I know that this is a binaries group and I have posted several
pictures in here. Take a look at this website
http://mrbasheer.tripod.com/moonwalk.htm Its enough to make people
believe that no one has ever been on the moon.


Only stupid people.