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it's just before accident. Red vertical stabilizer is Joe Walker's F-104
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Patrick R7 wrote in news:48f73c43$0$7937$7a628cd7
@news.club-internet.fr: it's just before accident. Red vertical stabilizer is Joe Walker's F-104 Why did the flight require "chase planes" - and five of them, at that............ |
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Mitchell Holman wrote:
Why did the flight require "chase planes" - and five of them, at that............ They're not chase planes. The aircraft were assembled for a photo shoot for the benefit of GE, the manufacturer of all the engines of the five aircraft to be photographed. |
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Steven P. McNicoll a écrit :
Mitchell Holman wrote: Why did the flight require "chase planes" - and five of them, at that............ They're not chase planes. The aircraft were assembled for a photo shoot for the benefit of GE, the manufacturer of all the engines of the five aircraft to be photographed. but several flights were with "chase planes" like "B-58", T-38, etc . -- Patrick R7 |
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Patrick R7 wrote:
but several flights were with "chase planes" like "B-58", T-38, etc . Of course. But the question was about the planes in the photo on that flight. |
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Mitchell Holman a écrit :
Patrick R7 wrote in news:48f73c43$0$7937$7a628cd7 @news.club-internet.fr: it's just before accident. Red vertical stabilizer is Joe Walker's F-104 Why did the flight require "chase planes" - and five of them, at that............ .... sorry, I don't know. Perhaps it's necessary to watch, to keep an eye all around this very complex and original aircraft ... ? -- Patrick R7 |
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![]() "Mitchell Holman" wrote in message ... Patrick R7 wrote in news:48f73c43$0$7937$7a628cd7 @news.club-internet.fr: it's just before accident. Red vertical stabilizer is Joe Walker's F-104 Why did the flight require "chase planes" - and five of them, at that............ It didn't. It was a promotional phot op for GE. They provided engines for all of the aircraft in the formation as I recall. I read about this a while back so my memory may be faulty. Nick |
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"Canuck" wrote in
: "Mitchell Holman" wrote in message n it's just before accident. Red vertical stabilizer is Joe Walker's F-104 Why did the flight require "chase planes" - and five of them, at that............ It didn't. It was a promotional phot op for GE. They provided engines for all of the aircraft in the formation as I recall. I read about this a while back so my memory may be faulty. Nick AND in Chuck Yeager's opinion: an accident that should not have happened. the F-104 driver was NOT a good enough formation pilot to be in that formation. "Yeager" page 179 |
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John Szalay wrote: = = AND in Chuck Yeager's opinion: = an accident that should not have happened. = the F-104 driver was NOT a good enough formation pilot to be = in that formation. = = "Yeager" = page 179 A reasonable description of the accident can be found he http://www.thexhunters.com/xpeditions/xb-70a_accident.html The wikipedia entry on the XB-70 gives some interesting additional detail on possible reasons for the crash: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XB-70_Valkyrie Though this was an experimental program managed by North American, the United States Air Force conducted its own accident investigation. The Air Force Summary Accident Report[17] found that, given the position of the F-104 relative to the XB-70, the F-104 pilot would not have been able to see the XB-70's wing, except via looking back over his left shoulder. This position would not have been comfortable for extended periods of time. The Accident Report concluded that Walker, piloting the F-104, likely maintained his position by looking at the fuselage of the XB-70, forward of his position. The Report estimated that the F-104 was 70 ft to the side of, and 10 feet below, the fuselage of the XB-70. In addition, the Report found that from that position, there would be no suitable alignment points to maintain a precise position relative to the Valkyrie. Given this supporting evidence, the Report concluded that due to the unavailability of appropriate sight cues, Walker was unable to properly perceive his motion relative to the Valkyrie, leading to his aircraft drifting into contact with the XB-70's wing. Excellent summary of the entire XB-70 program he http://www.afa.org/magazine/june2006/0606valkyrie.asp There is now a huge amount of information about this aircraft on the web and some of it presents more than just speculation or opinion. OIV -- Orlando Quattro -- oquattro at magma dot ca The Starving Artist's Garratt |
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