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Old January 22nd 04, 08:41 PM
Jack G
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Would that be the Douglas B-26 (JD) or the Martin B-26 (JM) :O)

Jack


"Nice Again" wrote in message
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I can picture the JD in my mind but I have trouble with the B-26.

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"Nice Again" wrote in message
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F fighter
8 eighth model
F Grumman


I did not ask for an explanation of the Navy's bizarre designation

system,
it was your message that was a mystery.






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Old January 22nd 04, 08:44 PM
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Nice Again wrote:
That's one of the points, you can tell the mfg. Doh!


It was was pointed out in another forum that you can tell
the manufacturer of an AF craft if the complete designator
is used. Such as:

P-38J-25-LO
P-47D-25-RE
P-51H-5-NA
B-17F-1-DL (Built by Douglas)
B-17F-1-BO (Boeing)

The Navy simply made it a more integral part of the
designation. I do not know if this holds true still in the
standardised designation system.

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Old January 23rd 04, 02:03 AM
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Nice Again wrote:
That's one of the points, you can tell the mfg. Doh!


I'd call it a bug, not a feature. If it told you the designer, it might be
of some value, but manufacturer names are often too fluid to be helpful. As
is, the system is potentially quite confusing, as the examples given before
can show (F4U, FG and F3B are the same plane!?!) It makes little sense to
use a system that requires different designations for the same aircraft just
because it was built by different companies or the factory changed
ownership.

Moreover, from an amateur's perspective, the Navy system makes it difficult
to instantly recognize which aircraft came first in production, or tell
which are contemporaries of each other. The F4U and F4D aren't even
remotely of the same era, for example, but you can't tell that from their
designations. OTOH, you can tell that the F-14, -15, and -16 came in that
order and probably realize that they are rough contemporaries.

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Old January 23rd 04, 02:46 AM
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"Nice Again" wrote in message
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That's one of the points, you can tell the mfg. Doh!


So what? With that system you wind up with multiple designations for
virtually identical aircraft. A Corsair could be an F4U, an FG, or an F3A.
Boeing, Douglas and Vega all built Flying Fortresses, but under the USAAF
system they were all B-17s.


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Old January 23rd 04, 02:49 AM
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The Navy system wasn't bizzarre.


The Navy system had multiple designations for virtually identical aircraft.
That's bizarre.



It made it easy to identiy a/c (mental
picture) by just the lettr and numbers.


No easier than the USAAF/USAF system, which had the advantages of order and
logic.


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Old January 23rd 04, 02:52 AM
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"Nice Again" wrote in message
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I can picture the JD in my mind but I have trouble with the B-26.


I can picture them both, and the JM too.


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Old January 23rd 04, 02:59 AM
Steven P. McNicoll
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"Thomas Schoene" wrote in message
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I'd call it a bug, not a feature. If it told you the designer, it might

be
of some value, but manufacturer names are often too fluid to be helpful.

As
is, the system is potentially quite confusing, as the examples given

before
can show (F4U, FG and F3B are the same plane!?!)


Ah, but they're not the same plane! The F4U was, of course, the Vought
Corsair, and the FG was a Corsair built by Goodyear. But the F3B was a
Boeing biplane fighter of the late twenties. The Brewster-built Corsair was
the F3A.


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Old January 23rd 04, 03:06 AM
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote:

"Nice Again" wrote


The Navy system wasn't bizzarre.


The Navy system had multiple designations for virtually identical aircraft.
That's bizarre.


It made it easy to identiy a/c (mental
picture) by just the lettr and numbers.


No easier than the USAAF/USAF system, which had the advantages of order and
logic.


But.

The USAAF/USAF system didn't permit any fun aircraft, like B1RDs.
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Old January 23rd 04, 03:21 AM
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The USAAF/USAF system didn't permit any fun aircraft, like B1RDs.


The Navy system didn't allow a B1RD.


 




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