Thinking out loud

On Mon, 03 May 2004 15:32:05 GMT, "Marco Rispoli"
wrote:


Your idea's ok, but lose this bozo.


Why do you say that if you don't mind me asking?

Because if I understood you correctly, he tried to kill you. Go back
to the part of my first message about being grossly over-gross.

Don

Don Tuite wrote:

Here' the specs on the Yankee:

http://www.planeandpilotmag.com/cont...antrainer.html

As you can see, with two 210-pounders in there, 24 gallons of fuel,
and some crap in the back, you were close to 100 pounds over gross.

He said half tanks. That brings it down quite a bit.

George Patterson
If you don't tell lies, you never have to remember what you said.

"Don Tuite" wrote in message
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On Mon, 03 May 2004 15:32:05 GMT, "Marco Rispoli"
wrote:


Your idea's ok, but lose this bozo.


Why do you say that if you don't mind me asking?

Because if I understood you correctly, he tried to kill you. Go back
to the part of my first message about being grossly over-gross.

Don

ah ... I see what you are referring to.

To be honest I didn't feel that I was in any danger. It might have been a
bit cavalier of him to do that but I think this guy has enough hours in that
plane to know the limitations and abilities of the machine pretty darn good.

Overgross? yes possibly but to be honest ... I don't know for sure. I just
guess-timated.

My guess is that given the high humidity and temperature the plane was
suffering.

The runway is fairly long over at Central Jersey. Plenty of space to decide
that the plane won't lift off. Plenty of runway to stop IMO.

Would I have done it if I was him? No ... borderline over gross and possibly
over gross, even by a pound is a big NO NO for me.

But I have only 65 hours ... he's got one hell of a lot more.

--
Marco Rispoli - NJ, USA / PP-ASEL
My On-line pilot community - http://www.thepilotlounge.com

"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
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Don Tuite wrote:

Here' the specs on the Yankee:

http://www.planeandpilotmag.com/cont...antrainer.html

As you can see, with two 210-pounders in there, 24 gallons of fuel,
and some crap in the back, you were close to 100 pounds over gross.

He said half tanks. That brings it down quite a bit.

George Patterson


yes. this is what I said ...

We are talking about 430 pounds of load with half tanks on a hot and muggy
day.

Sorry I thought that Don saw that.

Thanks were not full. Half full. (12 gallons? 72 pounds?)


--
Marco Rispoli - NJ, USA / PP-ASEL
My On-line pilot community - http://www.thepilotlounge.com

"G.R. Patterson III" wrote:

Tovar ....
^^^^^

Should be Tibor. Been a while.

George Patterson
If you don't tell lies, you never have to remember what you said.

Marco Rispoli wrote:

Thanks were not full. Half full. (12 gallons? 72 pounds?)

Yep. You were about at max gross. Maybe a few pounds over, but not much.

George Patterson
If you don't tell lies, you never have to remember what you said.

Marco Rispoli wrote:

700 feet for takeoff?? humm.... the plane felt a lot slower to leave the
runway than that ...

Dunno if it's standard practice, but Maule's takeoff performance figures are
determined with half tanks, no baggage, and one 170 pound person on board. Perhaps
Grumman's are also.

George Patterson
If you don't tell lies, you never have to remember what you said.

"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
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"G.R. Patterson III" wrote:

Tovar ....
^^^^^

Should be Tibor. Been a while.

George Patterson
If you don't tell lies, you never have to remember what you said.

I was wondering what you were talking about ... hehe

Do you hang around Central Jersey much?

Cause wether or not I buy Tibor's plane I WILL base my plane there. I am
NOT going to base it at Linden. That's for sure.

--
Marco Rispoli - NJ, USA / PP-ASEL
My On-line pilot community - http://www.thepilotlounge.com

Marco Rispoli wrote:

Do you hang around Central Jersey much?

Nope, we moved a few years ago, and I've been based at Old Bridge ever since. I still
drop by to see friends every once in a while, but I haven't seen Tibor in about 4
years.

Cause wether or not I buy Tibor's plane I WILL base my plane there. I am
NOT going to base it at Linden. That's for sure.

It's not a bad place to keep a plane. John Price (who also posts here) keeps a plane
there and teaches there.

George Patterson
If you don't tell lies, you never have to remember what you said.

On Mon, 03 May 2004 20:43:00 GMT, "G.R. Patterson III"
wrote:



Don Tuite wrote:

Here' the specs on the Yankee:

http://www.planeandpilotmag.com/cont...antrainer.html

As you can see, with two 210-pounders in there, 24 gallons of fuel,
and some crap in the back, you were close to 100 pounds over gross.

He said half tanks. That brings it down quite a bit.


By 72 pounds. My error.

Don