JFK

On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 18:03:29 -0500, G.R. Patterson III wrote:

The editors of several Berlin newspapers would be surprised to hear that
(Berliner Morgenpost, Berliner Zeitung, etc.). Berliner refers to a resident
of Berlin, just as a Hamburger is a denizen of Hamburg and a Frankfurter
resides in Frankfurt.

"Ich bin Berliner" translates as "I am a Berliner". "Ich bin EIN Berliner"
translates as "I am a jelly doughnut".

No.

"I am a New Yorker" means that I am from New York and would not mean that I
am a fashion store ('New Yorker' is the name of a local retail chain for
clothing).

JFK said it in West-Berlin, in the high time of the cold war. That the
Berlin wall was the lesser bad thing for the US than any heavier conflict
with the countries behind the iron curtain is another story and might have
started at the meeting in Vienna with Khrushchev in 1961.

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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote:

Wouldn't jelly doughnut be gelee krapfen?

There's a particular type of jelly doughnut that's called a Berliner.

George Patterson
They say nothing's certain except death and taxes. The thing is, death
doesn't get worse every time Congress goes into session.

Martin Hotze wrote:

No.

Well, you certainly know the language much better than I.

George Patterson
They say nothing's certain except death and taxes. The thing is, death
doesn't get worse every time Congress goes into session.

"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
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There's a particular type of jelly doughnut that's called a Berliner.


I believe Pizza Hut offered a particular pizza they called a New Yorker a
few years ago, perhaps they still do. So does "I'm a New Yorker" mean "I'm
a pizza"?

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote:

I believe Pizza Hut offered a particular pizza they called a New Yorker a
few years ago, perhaps they still do. So does "I'm a New Yorker" mean "I'm
a pizza"?

Not in English.

George Patterson
They say nothing's certain except death and taxes. The thing is, death
doesn't get worse every time Congress goes into session.

"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
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Not in English.


Nor in German.

"Philip Sondericker" wrote in message
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| in article , C J Campbell at
| wrote on 11/14/03 6:01 PM:
|
| He did claim to be a jelly donut (literal translation of "Ich bin ein
| Berliner")
|
| The editors of several Berlin newspapers would be surprised to hear that
| (Berliner Morgenpost, Berliner Zeitung, etc.). Berliner refers to a
resident
| of Berlin, just as a Hamburger is a denizen of Hamburg and a Frankfurter
| resides in Frankfurt. Generally, these words are only funny to non-Germans
| who haven't the slightest idea what they're talking about.

OK, I confess to pulling your collective legs.

The whole Berliner gaff is actually an urban legend. "Ich bin ein Berliner"
is grammatically correct. If someone says "I am a New Yorker," you don't
automatically assume that he is claiming to be a magazine. Kennedy's speech
was reviewed by a professional translator before he gave it. So there was
not tittering and no guffaws -- what he said was right.

Nevertheless, the "gaff" has been repeated so often, even in publications
like "Time" and "Newsweek," that it has taken on a life of its own. And I
just think it is a very funny story, even if it is really unfair.

Well, I'd rather have him lying to his wife than doing what Bush is doing.

mike regish

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:2%8tb.1931$Dw6.16125@attbi_s02...
What does infidelity have to do with his legacy? Do you disdain
Franklin
Roosevelt, Woodrow Wilson and Dwight Eisenhower as well? In fact, if you
run
down the founding fathers John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, Ben Franklin and
Alexander Hamilton have all been accused of being adulterers. Who cares?

I, for one, believe that any President should be held to the highest moral
standards, for one simple reason:

If the guy lies to his *wife*, what chance do you think WE have with him?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Hope you're kidding. Even I know that one.

mike regish

"Peter Duniho" wrote in message
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By the way,,, think about that famous JFK quote... "Ask not what your
country can do for you, but what you can do for your country"

Um. Wrong three-initial president. Try FDR.

Pete

He was never called on to commit perjury about it.

mike regish

"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
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"Cecil E. Chapman" wrote:

I've never understood the reverence for JFK, his infidelity made Clinton
look like a abstinent monk.

Yeah, but he never committed perjury about it, which is what got Clinton
impeached.

George Patterson
If you're not part of the solution, you can make a lot of money
prolonging
the problem.