Air Force One at Daytona

"Frederick Wilson" wrote in message news:vAbYb.325202$I06.3326541@attbi_s01...
That is not the case. When we fly army helicopters we have to abide by all
those TFRs aswell

Only because the Army has adopted that policy.

"Chuck" wrote in message nk.net...


Where you from? What is your local NASCAR track? Just wondering...


Our local NASCAR track (Old Dominion Speedway) is just inside HEF's class D.

The dirt track at Winchester is right under the base leg for the runway.

"Ash Wyllie" wrote in message
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Frederick Wilson opined

That is not the case. When we fly army helicopters we have to abide by
all
those TFRs aswell

Of course, we all know how untrustworthy Army Aviation is.


Absolutely. Although they are not as untrustworthy as the Navy. :-)

But I would be the last to start an interservice flame war on Usenet. Well,
maybe I wouldn't.

C J Campbell opined

"Ash Wyllie" wrote in message
...
Frederick Wilson opined

That is not the case. When we fly army helicopters we have to abide by
all
those TFRs aswell

Of course, we all know how untrustworthy Army Aviation is.


Absolutely. Although they are not as untrustworthy as the Navy. :-)

But I would be the last to start an interservice flame war on Usenet. Well,
maybe I wouldn't.

I don't think so. They took all of the armed aircraft away from the Army in
1948. If it weren't for helos sneaking in later the Army would not have any
guns in the skies.

You will note that the Navy got to keep its armed aircraft.

So the Navy is more trustworthy than the Army.


-ash
Cthulhu for President!
Why vote for a lesser evil?

Yeah but Daytona Beach Airport and the speedway are right next to each
other.

"Stuart King" wrote in message
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It seems unsafe.....so many people so close to the flying whitehouse.

SK


"BTIZ" wrote in message
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There should have been a presidential TFR in addition to the standard
"crowd
/ event" TFR.. guess which takes priority..

If the airport is that close to the race track, then I'm sure everyone
had
to be on a clearance and in ATC contact to land there during the race.

Glad our local NASCAR track is far from the local airports, but the
local
AF
Base is within the standard "crowd / event" TFR radius, and I'm sure
they
don't stand down on race week.

BT

"Chuck" wrote in message
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"Frederick Wilson" wrote in message
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That is not the case. When we fly army helicopters we have to abide
by
all
those TFRs aswell


snip


I would imagine that Air Force One can fly anywhere it anywhere it
damn
well
pleases...


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"Trent Moorehead" wrote in message
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"Michael 182" wrote in message
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I promise, promise, promise there is no political agenda here. I just
think
this is a great photo. Don't know how far the runway is from the stands,
but
the illusion is that the wings are practically over the race crowd.

Michael

http://makeashorterlink.com/?C43163D67

The picture looks foreshortened, I guess due to a zoom lens, making it
look
close to the crowd. While it is close, it's not *that* close!

What I thought was really impressive was when AF-1 circled the track at a
low altitude. I believe that may have been the first time I've ever seen a
747 do that. That thing is BIG. Gave me chills and made me strangely
nervous
at the same time.

-Trent
PP-ASEL



IIRC...

Air Force One did a flyby at the Kitty Hawk 100th celebration as well...

Jay Beckman
Chandler, AZ
Student Pilot
(Got My First .9 Today !!)

Might be the case but I still get paid to fly the ole Huey.

"Ash Wyllie" wrote in message
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Frederick Wilson opined

That is not the case. When we fly army helicopters we have to abide by
all
those TFRs aswell

Of course, we all know how untrustworthy Army Aviation is.

"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
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SFM wrote:

Gee I wonder if the pilot of AF1 in violation of the stadium and
sports
gathering NOTAM??

I believe that does not apply to U.S. military aircraft.

George Patterson
A diplomat is a person who can tell you to go to hell in such a
way
that
you look forward to the trip.




-ash
Cthulhu for President!
Why vote for a lesser evil?

"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
...


BTIZ wrote:

Thanx... looks like the perfect airport neighbor.. a noisy track..

We have found that the combination works well at Old Bridge, NJ. Local
residents
tend to complain more about the drag strip than the airport. They're
outnumbered
by the race fans.

George Patterson
A diplomat is a person who can tell you to go to hell in such a way
that
you look forward to the trip.

Perfect... let the track take the heat for the noise...

BT

Is it possibly a doctored photo? Look at one of the light standards in the
stands, and the main gear. Looks a little fishy to me.

Of course I know nothing about photography, So I could be way off

"Dan Moos" wrote in

Is it possibly a doctored photo? Look at one of the light standards in the
stands, and the main gear. Looks a little fishy to me.

What looks out of place, Dan?