Fly-In Beer Festivals

Yeah, but some of us have to notify Special Branch if we want to fly
there...

Paul

"Dylan Smith" wrote in message
...
Most readers probably won't be able to make it in their plane across the
Atlantic, but there are at least some readers who are already on the
right side of that body of water for this one.

The Bay in Port Erin, in the Isle of Man, has a 'Hoptoberfest' - a real
ale festival. EGNS (Ronaldsway) is the closest airport, about 6 miles
away.

Yeah, but some of us have to notify Special Branch if we want to fly
there...

Hey Paul -- Could you clue us ignorant Americans in on what that means,
please?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

In article HvI6c.44313$po.351393@attbi_s52, Jay Honeck wrote:
Yeah, but some of us have to notify Special Branch if we want to fly
there...

Hey Paul -- Could you clue us ignorant Americans in on what that means,
please?

I think he was following up to my message. The Isle of Man isn't part of
the UK or the European Union for that matter. Unfortunately, the Isle of
Man has also been abused by Irish terrorists trying to attack Britain.
Therefore, if you're not flying from a 'designated airfield' (generally
one with Customs available) you have to notify Special Branch before you
fly here. It's not that difficult - you just notify them by fax. There
are quite a few GA airfields that are designated, for which all you need
to do is fill out a card when you depart. I've never had a problem when
flying to a "non designated" in the UK though.

It's only a problem if you're actually *wanted* by Special Branch. Is
Paul not telling us something? :-)

--
Dylan Smith, Castletown, Isle of Man
Flying: http://www.dylansmith.net
Frontier Elite Universe: http://www.alioth.net
"Maintain thine airspeed, lest the ground come up and smite thee"

It's only a problem if you're actually *wanted* by Special Branch. Is
Paul not telling us something? :-)

I hope not -- he's coming to visit us soon! :-)

I take it "Special Branch" is the British equivalent of the FBI?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

On Sun, 21 Mar 2004 13:47:05 GMT, Jay Honeck wrote:

I take it "Special Branch" is the British equivalent of the FBI?

no.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Branch
but they work close with MI5.

#m
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A far-reaching proposal from the FBI (...) would require all broadband
Internet providers, including cable modem and DSL companies, to rewire
their networks to support easy wiretapping by police.
http://news.com.com/2100-1028-5172948.html

Heh, no, it's just another bit of paperwork to fill in, fax, etc.
Having no such facilities at my airfield (until maybe I get my
PDA) I would probably have to phone up to make prior
arrangements. I'm more interested in flying to Jersey, Guernsey
and Alderney than the Isle Of Man, but the same rules apply.

Paul

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:t1h7c.55438$po.518489@attbi_s52...
It's only a problem if you're actually *wanted* by Special Branch. Is
Paul not telling us something? :-)

I hope not -- he's coming to visit us soon! :-)

In article , Paul Sengupta wrote:
arrangements. I'm more interested in flying to Jersey, Guernsey
and Alderney than the Isle Of Man, but the same rules apply.

OK, I'm biased. But you should visit us instead of Jersey, Guernsey and
Alderny because we are better. Consider:

* We have vertical. The Channel Islands are all billiard tables.
* We have three breweries and a distillery for a population of 78K.
* Our population density is less than 1/3rd of Jersey's - much more open
space.
* We have gliders.
* We have paragliding and hang-gliding too.
* We DON'T have Class A airspace all around us.
* We have three railways - two electric and one steam.
* We have the International Tin Bath races.
* We have an airshow and the Schnieder Cup air races every year. Any GA
pilot can take part in the Air Races. We might be getting Reno-style
pylon racing too (although I suspect the entries for that might be a bit
more limited :-))
* We have the beautiful Calf Sound, where you can see seals at play
and the occasional basking shark.
* You sometimes get to see the Northern Lights -
http://www.dylansmith.co.im/photogra...rora-dec-2003/

Of course, not to mention four road races - the TT festival, the Manx
GP, The Southern 100 and the Jurby South road race.

In comparison, the Channel Islands are boring and pedestrian :-)

--
Dylan Smith, Castletown, Isle of Man
Flying: http://www.dylansmith.net
Frontier Elite Universe: http://www.alioth.net
"Maintain thine airspeed, lest the ground come up and smite thee"

"Dylan Smith" wrote in message
...
In article , Paul Sengupta
wrote:
arrangements. I'm more interested in flying to Jersey, Guernsey
and Alderney than the Isle Of Man, but the same rules apply.

OK, I'm biased. But you should visit us instead of Jersey, Guernsey and
Alderny because we are better. Consider:

* We have vertical. The Channel Islands are all billiard tables.
* We have three breweries and a distillery for a population of 78K.
* Our population density is less than 1/3rd of Jersey's - much more open
space.
* We have gliders.
* We have paragliding and hang-gliding too.
* We DON'T have Class A airspace all around us.
* We have three railways - two electric and one steam.
* We have the International Tin Bath races.
* We have an airshow and the Schnieder Cup air races every year. Any GA
pilot can take part in the Air Races. We might be getting Reno-style
pylon racing too (although I suspect the entries for that might be a bit
more limited :-))
* We have the beautiful Calf Sound, where you can see seals at play
and the occasional basking shark.
* You sometimes get to see the Northern Lights -
http://www.dylansmith.co.im/photogra...rora-dec-2003/

Of course, not to mention four road races - the TT festival, the Manx
GP, The Southern 100 and the Jurby South road race.

In comparison, the Channel Islands are boring and pedestrian :-)

They have better weather. :-)

Paul

In article , Paul Sengupta wrote:
In comparison, the Channel Islands are boring and pedestrian :-)

They have better weather. :-)

There's no such thing as bad weather. Only the wrong clothes :-)

(Having said that, I think we get a lot less fog than Jersey, and our
summers are definitely a more amenable temperature)

--
Dylan Smith, Castletown, Isle of Man
Flying: http://www.dylansmith.net
Frontier Elite Universe: http://www.alioth.net
"Maintain thine airspeed, lest the ground come up and smite thee"

"Dylan Smith" wrote in message
...
In article , Paul Sengupta
wrote:
In comparison, the Channel Islands are boring and pedestrian :-)

They have better weather. :-)

There's no such thing as bad weather. Only the wrong clothes :-)

(Having said that, I think we get a lot less fog than Jersey, and our
summers are definitely a more amenable temperature)

It was just a tongue in cheek comment! Crossing all that water by air
as opposed to 8 hours on a ferry seems like a good use of a plane.
I suppose the IoM would be a good use too.

Ok, let's see...

* We have vertical. The Channel Islands are all billiard tables.

Hmm. More difficult to walk/cycle around...

* We have three breweries and a distillery for a population of 78K.

Is the beer as cheap? 3 Breweries. Ok, that's one plus for an
overnight stay...

* Our population density is less than 1/3rd of Jersey's - much more open
space.

To build an airport? They have one on Jersey...

* We have gliders.

I can only fit in a Grob 103. In the back seat. Lasham has one,
not far from me...

* We have paragliding and hang-gliding too.

I'm scared of heights.

* We DON'T have Class A airspace all around us.

Not so relevant. You just tell them you're coming.

* We have three railways - two electric and one steam.

Ah. Worth seeing.

* We have the International Tin Bath races.

Um...

* We have an airshow and the Schnieder Cup air races every year. Any GA
pilot can take part in the Air Races. We might be getting Reno-style
pylon racing too (although I suspect the entries for that might be a bit
more limited :-))

http://www.jerseyairdisplay.org.uk/
http://www.flyalderney.com/airace.html#huntMonk
http://www.guernseyaeroclub.com/rally/

* We have the beautiful Calf Sound, where you can see seals at play
and the occasional basking shark.

Ahhh...

* You sometimes get to see the Northern Lights -
http://www.dylansmith.co.im/photogra...rora-dec-2003/

Blimey.

Of course, not to mention four road races - the TT festival, the Manx
GP, The Southern 100 and the Jurby South road race.

Petrol heads!

In comparison, the Channel Islands are boring and pedestrian :-)

They have German occupational military underground hospitals.

http://www.jersey.co.uk/attractions/ughospital/
http://www.occupied.guernsey.net/u_ground_hospital.htm

More stuff:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/guernsey/about_...cupation.shtml

They also have castles, but I'd like to see those on the IoM.

I'll see if I can pencil it in this summer!

Paul