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  #381  
Old March 23rd 04, 04:40 AM
Dave Stadt
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"Wdtabor" wrote in message
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In article , "Dan Luke"
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"Wdtabor" wrote:
But I am not trying to compare the relative worth of cultures, I am
comparing results. Had the Amerindian culture rewarded knowledge
and ambition as ours did, considering the vast resources thay had at
their disposal, a successful culture would have been large and strong
enough to resist us.


So conquest and extermination of one culture by another is justified on
the grounds that it's the conquered culture's fault for being weaker
than the conqueror?


There is a difference between something being justified and it's being
inevitable.

OK, let's look at it from a Democrat perspective. There are about 285

million
people in the US, how about if the 2 million wealthiest buy up all the

deeds
and evict the other 283 million, keeping the entire country for

themsleves as
a giant hunting and fishing preserve. What about the 283million homeless,

or
the hundreds of millions of others around the world who will starve to

death if
the US agricultural bounty is converted to a big game park? Would you

allow
that now? Then why would it have been reasonable then?

Those resources simply were not going to be wasted while people starved to
death around the world. Had we not moved in, the Russians would have moved

in
from the northwest, or the Spanish from the south, or the French from

Canada.

It can certainly be said that there were unethical measures used in how

the
transition was made, but the simple truth is that Ameridian culture was

doomed
the moment navigational technology broke their isolation.

Don



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Wm. Donald (Don) Tabor Jr., DDS
PP-ASEL
Chesapeake, VA - CPK, PVG


Plus, the Europeans did nothing to the Indians that they didn't do to
themselves. Ritual murder, slavery, genocide and torture were all part of
the culture.





  #382  
Old March 23rd 04, 04:52 AM
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On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 20:31:26 +0100, Martin Hotze
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How come we choose from just two people to
run for president and 50 for Miss America?

I don't approve of political jokes. I've seen too many of them get elected.


How come we choose from just two people to
run for president and 50 for Miss America?


There are a lot more qualified candidates and it doesn't take cash to
buy a vote?

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

I don't approve of political jokes. I've seen too many of them get elected.

  #383  
Old March 23rd 04, 06:25 AM
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Martin Hotze wrote in message . ..
On 19 Mar 2004 16:18:08 -0800, pacplyer wrote:

The rest of the world hates us anyway because we have a very high
standard of living here


there are many countries with a higher standard.


Yes, that's true. I should have said "much of the world." But out of
the almost three hundred countries in the world, the U.S. has
two-hundred below it by most measures, and that's what we're talking
about here. The "have-not" countries seem to be havens for terrorist
groups.

and we are truely free to enjoy life, liberty,
and the pursuit of flying little airplanes.


true

I shutter to think what
would happen to me if I wrote the above in downtown Tehran.


you would not make many friends.

(which is
the next place we need to take off the map.)


says who? and why should one wonder if some guy in Teheran thinks the same
about NY?

#m


Let's see... they been burning American flags in the streets of Iran
for thirty years. Martin, we already know what the fundamentalist
movement there thinks of the U.S. Next target? Says who? The next
U.S. president, that's who (I elect that man to office.) The
significant questions for the next U.S. administration a 1. Is it a
safe haven for terrorists? 2. Is the WMD program a significant threat
or, just as bad, unknown.

I for one, will support any invasion to discover those facts if
inspectors are not happy. I am however, against long occupation, like
our situation in Iraq. Why is it: the bleeding hearts always favor
Isolationism? If one sticks his head in the sand and says: I have no
proof of nuke development, therefore I shall not invade; that does not
stop a functioning warhead from entering his city once OBL's guys
finally get enough componants somewhere to put one together.

pacplyer
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Old March 23rd 04, 06:46 AM
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Great post Jay. Right on the money. I too have major issues with
Bush/Cheney but all things considered feel that they are reasonable
operators. Can't stand the GA impact by dept. of home defense/TSA,
labor law trashing, Patriot Act, other things. But those men did the
best they could with the crappy intel they were given on the war
front. Remember, it was the Clinton admin that meddled around with
the CIA stipulating that they could no longer hire any "unsavory
characters." Thank god for term limits.

pac


"Jay Honeck" wrote

Please pack this drivel away, once and for all...

How is GW getting rich on Iraq?

How is it that the major nations of the world, the United Nations, and your
patron saint, Bill Clinton, were all convinced that Saddam had weapons of
mass destruction, and publicly stated so before the war? (Not a huge leap
of faith, given that Saddam ADMITTED to having them, and USED them on his
own people.)

How is it that the Supreme Court of our country -- packed, as it was, with
Clinton appointees -- perpetrated an "electoral fraud" on us all?

When are folks of your ilk going to realize that we actually, finally, for a
brief moment in time, have a president who says what he means, means what he
says, and doesn't back down because some ABC Pollster -- or foreign
dignitary -- tells him that the folks in Newark or Paris don't agree with
his positions?

Personally, I do not agree with everything Bush does. However, if you're
going to impugn the man's character, at least back it up with some logic and
a few facts -- not just the left-wing's tired re-hash of old lies and
innuendo.

And, by the way...how 'bout that new Garmin G1000?

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Old March 23rd 04, 10:49 AM
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In article , Dan Luke wrote:
Granted. Have you ever considered that the stupidest thing humans can
possibly do is to attempt to establish contact with space-faring alien
beings? "Hey! Conquistadors! We're over here!"


We can't avoid it. In the frequency range from about 100KHz to about
2GHz, the Earth has been brighter than the sun for at least 40 years.
Any being that is capable of pointing a radiotelescope our way within
40LY will know that there is something a little unusual about the Sol
system by now.

On the other hand, the laws of physics means it will take them a little
while to get here.

--
Dylan Smith, Castletown, Isle of Man
Flying: http://www.dylansmith.net
Frontier Elite Universe: http://www.alioth.net
"Maintain thine airspeed, lest the ground come up and smite thee"
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Old March 23rd 04, 02:18 PM
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"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
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S Green wrote:

The only war the Americans have won on their own was the Civil War.


Tell that to the Mexicans and Philipinos.

Quite...though in the 20th century the US has been the Dennis Eckersley of
wartime.



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Old March 23rd 04, 02:26 PM
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"pacplyer" wrote in message
m...
Great post Jay. Right on the money. I too have major issues with
Bush/Cheney but all things considered feel that they are reasonable
operators. Can't stand the GA impact by dept. of home defense/TSA,
labor law trashing, Patriot Act, other things.


Considering that wuring WW2, the US intered members of it's populace, the US
response after 9/11 was rather "mild". Remember that it was Bubba who first
had concrete barriers placed in front of the White House,,,during a time of
peace.

But those men did the
best they could with the crappy intel they were given on the war
front. Remember, it was the Clinton admin that meddled around with
the CIA stipulating that they could no longer hire any "unsavory
characters."


That goes back the 70's and the Tower Commission, at the behest of the
radical left. But it was Clinton that pretty much held that technical
surveillance (satellite) would be adequate. That was criminally ignorant.
The path of terrorism unanswered during the Clinton regime is sickening.

Anyone was to claim that had Gore been in office he would NOT have declared
martial law after 9/11?





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Old March 23rd 04, 02:29 PM
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"Roger Halstead" wrote in message
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On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 20:31:26 +0100, Martin Hotze
wrote:

How come we choose from just two people to
run for president and 50 for Miss America?

I don't approve of political jokes. I've seen too many of them get

elected.

How come we choose from just two people to
run for president and 50 for Miss America?


Actually, during the nomination process probably a hundred candidates "throw
their hat in the ring". The 2004 election had, what, seven candidates on the
ballot (Green, Libertarian, Natural Rights, Perotistas, Reform party,
Catered party...)?


There are a lot more qualified candidates and it doesn't take cash to
buy a vote?


Just big tits.




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Old March 23rd 04, 03:41 PM
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Martin Hotze wrote in message . ..


Freedom has to be earned.




What a dumbass thing to say. Freedom is a god given right.

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Old March 23rd 04, 03:44 PM
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Martin Hotze wrote in message . ..

On 19 Mar 2004 16:18:08 -0800, pacplyer wrote:


The rest of the world hates us anyway because we have a very high
standard of living here


there are many countries with a higher standard.




No, there's not.

 




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