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Old April 5th 04, 06:31 PM
Allan Meuli
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Can anyone fill in the gaps? What are the ups and downs of actually

living
at an airport?



Make sure there aren't issues with the people leaving near the airport. The
owners of St. Croix Riviera airstrip on the MN/WI border had to agree to
discontinue their annual fly-in, and to operate no twins, and to not operate
any aircraft within 1000 feet of one particular rabid neighbors home
(although the airport had been there since the mid 50's).

Googling will yield more information on this strip if anyone is interested.


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Old April 5th 04, 06:35 PM
Jay Honeck
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Likely the biggest problem is simply that you'll be a member of a
homeowner's association


I need to make a few clarifications. This home is not at an airpark. It is
the original home of the guy who built the airport. Before he owned it, the
place was a farm. The home has been extensively remodeled and added onto
over the years, such that we couldn't even see the original farm house.

There is no other home on or near the airport.

As for the noise, at most airparks, there are only a handful of operations
each day.


The airport is owned by a 200-member flying club, and is quite active.

You don't say how far the actual home is from the runway, but I'd be
surprised if the noise ever wound up being a problem.


The runway runs at an angle along the western border of the property. The
home's property line starts 60 feet back from the centerline of the runway.
The deck of the home is another 40 feet or so back from there -- so when
you're sitting on the deck, the wingtips are less than 100 feet away. It's
VERY cool.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


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Old April 5th 04, 06:36 PM
Jay Honeck
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Sounds great to me,,, in spite of a bit of a reservation about being 60
feet
from the departure end of the runway


The runway parallels the house -- it is not off the departure or arrival
ends.

But the deck is only 100 feet away.
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Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
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Old April 5th 04, 06:42 PM
Peter Duniho
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"Nigel T Peart" wrote in message
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Pay attention chaps, read before you post!!!


Pay attention yourself.

It's clearly not an airpark read "property line".
and he tells us the distance read "60 feet".


"Clearly not an airpark"? Why not? Just because the property itself
doesn't include the runway? Have you ever even seen an airpark? It's quite
common for a residential airpark to have properties that don't include the
runway.

Even if it's not an airpark (and sure looks to me like it is), what of it?
The real question is whether Jay will get annoyed at the airplane noise, and
frankly if the house is near the runway, this is a valid question whether or
not the facility qualifies as an airpark (though, it does).

Pete


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Old April 5th 04, 06:54 PM
Jay Masino
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There's an article in the March/April issue of Aviator's Guide about
living in an airpark.
http://www.aviatorsguide.com/feature...304_flyins.htm
It's not directly applicable, since your property isn't in a residential
airpark, but some things are probably applicable.

--- Jay



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Old April 5th 04, 06:57 PM
Orval Fairbairn
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In article yZccc.190286$Cb.1727600@attbi_s51,
"Jay Honeck" wrote:

We find ourselves with the rare opportunity to purchase a home with a
property line just 60 feet from the centerline of a 2400 foot runway.

It's a beautiful home, with almost 2 acres of land. It's got everything we
could want in a home, except for a hangar. (The hangar that comes with it
fits an ultralight...) We'd have to add a full-sized hangar.

As we were standing on the deck, facing the runway, watching the planes come
and go, we started to wonder if the plane noise would eventually start to
grate on our nerves. If two people were ever made to live with their
plane, it's Mary and me -- but I thought it might be good to hear from some
of you who have actually DONE it. Does the "music" of the engines turn to
aggravation over time?

Can anyone fill in the gaps? What are the ups and downs of actually living
at an airport?



I live on what is probably the largest airpark in the world (Spruce
Creek) and I LOVE it! My house is probablt 1/2 mile from the runway, so
we don't get a lot of noise from aircraft.

The biggest problem is some young neighbors who race motorcycles
(sometimes on the taxiways).

The camaraderie here is just fabulous. EAA meets in one member's hangar,
where he keeps his Great Lakes, Model 12 Pitts, SX-300 and Tailwind.

Every Saturday morning a bunch of us (20-30 planes) fly off to breakfast
in several formations.
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Old April 5th 04, 07:25 PM
Gene Seibel
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It's a chance I'd take. I have an uncle who once lived in a house with
an active railroad track 30 feet from the bedroom window and did quite
well for a number of years. The human body has an amazing ability to
put up with what one chooses to.
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Gene Seibel
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Because I fly, I envy no one.




"Jay Honeck" wrote in message news:yZccc.190286$Cb.1727600@attbi_s51...
We find ourselves with the rare opportunity to purchase a home with a
property line just 60 feet from the centerline of a 2400 foot runway.

It's a beautiful home, with almost 2 acres of land. It's got everything we
could want in a home, except for a hangar. (The hangar that comes with it
fits an ultralight...) We'd have to add a full-sized hangar.

As we were standing on the deck, facing the runway, watching the planes come
and go, we started to wonder if the plane noise would eventually start to
grate on our nerves. If two people were ever made to live with their
plane, it's Mary and me -- but I thought it might be good to hear from some
of you who have actually DONE it. Does the "music" of the engines turn to
aggravation over time?

Can anyone fill in the gaps? What are the ups and downs of actually living
at an airport?

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Old April 5th 04, 07:51 PM
Peter Duniho
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:9Ngcc.189848$_w.1874169@attbi_s53...
I need to make a few clarifications. This home is not at an airpark. It

is
the original home of the guy who built the airport.


Even better. No pesky homeowners' associations to mess with.

As for the noise, at most airparks, there are only a handful of

operations
each day.


The airport is owned by a 200-member flying club, and is quite active.


Even better. You don't have to concern yourself with airport maintenance,
except perhaps as a contributing member to the club.

The runway runs at an angle along the western border of the property.

The
home's property line starts 60 feet back from the centerline of the

runway.
The deck of the home is another 40 feet or so back from there -- so when
you're sitting on the deck, the wingtips are less than 100 feet away.

It's
VERY cool.


IMHO, your last sentence says it all. If you're really concerned, you
should try to find out exactly what the average operations per day is, and
get a feel for the types of aircraft being operated. There are a few types
that are unreasonably loud, and if they operated there on a frequent basis
you might not like that. But otherwise, sure seems like a good situation to
me.

All that said, I've never lived at an airpark, or any home next to a runway,
so other than sharing my thoughts based on previous experiences looking at
airpark properties, I don't have any first-hand knowledge that would help.

Pete


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Old April 5th 04, 07:55 PM
Peter Duniho
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"Gene Seibel" wrote in message
om...
[...] The human body has an amazing ability to
put up with what one chooses to.


I think this is an important point, and I wish I'd thought to mention it
myself. There's a HUGE difference between noise you asked for and noise you
didn't. The exact same exposure can be an enormous irritant when you have
no control over it, and when you never expected it, and yet can be a
pleasurable reminder of your own favorite pasttime when you have consciously
decided to expose yourself to it.

Noise can be in and of itself detrimental, but except at the highest noise
levels, your own subjective perception has the most effect on how the noise
affects you.

I'm guessing someone with a passion for the railroad would love to live 30
feet from a set of active tracks, even though that kind of noise would drive
most people up the wall.

Pete


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Old April 5th 04, 08:30 PM
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Once again Jay, you've proven that you really and truly suck :-) As a
former Air Force brat who still looks up at *any* passing aircraft, I'd love
to be in your shoes. If you and Mary buy the place, I want to know when the
open house will be? Perhaps a pre-pre-Osh gathering spot...or overflow when
the Inn is full? :-)

Seriously, I'd love to live in an air park or near an airport like that.
Never done it but would be willing to take the chance. For now, I'll have
to limit my on-airport living to that week of bliss in late July/early
August.

--
Jack Allison
PP-ASEL

"When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the Earth
with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there
you will always long to return"
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