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Old May 10th 04, 04:44 AM
Steven P. McNicoll
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"Peter Gottlieb" wrote in message
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Why do so many people equate the position of the wings to
one's "manliness?"


I wouldn't know, but I have observed that those that do so tend to fly
low-wing airplanes.


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Old May 10th 04, 04:54 AM
Peter Gottlieb
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Doing a quick search for number of posts on the subject would then indicate
you fly a low wing model?

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"Peter Gottlieb" wrote in message
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Why do so many people equate the position of the wings to
one's "manliness?"


I wouldn't know, but I have observed that those that do so tend to fly
low-wing airplanes.




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Old May 10th 04, 05:08 AM
Jack Allison
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Dam, guess I busted some new regs when I flew through the Salt Lake bravo
airspace on the way to OSH then landed in Reno (Charlie) on the way home
from OSH. And no, we didn't impersonate a low wing aircraft. All radio
calls were "Skyhawk 717SP". Please oh please don't turn me in Jay. I'll
come stay at the Inn...I'll buy you a beer...I'll even promise to fly a
Piper sometime...

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Old May 10th 04, 05:12 AM
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Various resources on the 'net list a physician's average income as
ranging
anywhere from $129K to $255K annually.

That makes it about the same as mid-level managers at my former place of

employment.

Perhaps this is why they are no longer employing so many people?

When a business is paying mid-level managers what a physician averages in
salary, something is seriously amiss. Unless the company is making gold, or
selling crack, their profit margins aren't going to support such a salary
structure for long.
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Old May 10th 04, 05:14 AM
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David Megginson writes:

David Dyer-Bennet wrote:

And they're more likely to be able to afford more airplane than they
can fly than most of us are.


That must have been before universal health care (in most rich
countries) and HMOs + sky-high malpractice insurance premiums (in the
U.S.). General practitioners are not exactly lining up at the food
banks, yet, but they're hardly the ones with the big houses or new
cars any more, and they probably won't be the ones buying the new
glass-panel contraptions.


The doctors *I* know do well better than average, though.

On the other hand, a lot of people in tech made a lot of money before
the dot.com bubble burst, and many of those people now have (a) a lot
of money saved and (b) a lot of unexpected free time on their hands.
I think that a more appropriate name from the newer composite planes
like the SR-22 would be the one in the subject line.


I suspect the general geek mindset (I R a geek) also favors the new
materials and especially the glass cockpit approach.
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Old May 10th 04, 05:22 AM
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Peter Gottlieb wrote:

Doing a quick search for number of posts on the subject would then indicate
you fly a low wing model?


No, you have to read the content. Steven has posted in those threads, but I do not
recall him ever claiming that one or the other was more studly.

George Patterson
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Old May 10th 04, 05:27 AM
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Jay Honeck wrote:

Perhaps this is why they are no longer employing so many people?


There was certainly a distinct feeling to that effect amongst low-level employees. I
recall during some of the 2002 layoffs, it was explained to a friend of mine that
they were laying off low-level employees, but they were keeping their managers so
that they would have their strategy layer intact and could "spring ahead" when the
economy improved. Her opinion of this was that the people they were keeping were the
people who were responsible for the company's problems.

I still wouldn't go that far, but I *did* roll over the company stock in my 401K to
another fund a while back.

George Patterson
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Old May 10th 04, 05:52 AM
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heh heh, I was just yanking his chain a bit.

Probably means I owe him a beer or two someday.


"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
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Peter Gottlieb wrote:

Doing a quick search for number of posts on the subject would then

indicate
you fly a low wing model?


No, you have to read the content. Steven has posted in those threads, but

I do not
recall him ever claiming that one or the other was more studly.

George Patterson
If you don't tell lies, you never have to remember what you said.



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Old May 10th 04, 05:53 AM
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:GbBnc.16279$z06.2757697@attbi_s01...
That must have been before universal health care (in most rich

countries)
and HMOs + sky-high malpractice insurance premiums (in the U.S.).


Various resources on the 'net list a physician's average income as ranging
anywhere from $129K to $255K annually.


A physician in general/family practice?

How about surgeons or specialists (I know OB/GYN practitioners make a lot
but pay a mint in insurance).

I think they can probably eke a Bonanza or Cirrus payment out of that each
month.


They don't say, "Hey, it ain't brain surgery!" for nuthin'.


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Old May 10th 04, 06:00 AM
Tom Sixkiller
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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Various resources on the 'net list a physician's average income as

ranging
anywhere from $129K to $255K annually.

That makes it about the same as mid-level managers at my former place of

employment.

Perhaps this is why they are no longer employing so many people?

When a business is paying mid-level managers what a physician averages in
salary, something is seriously amiss. Unless the company is making gold,

or
selling crack, their profit margins aren't going to support such a salary
structure for long.


The only time a pay rate such as that is too high is when the productivity
doesn't match. That's true whether it's managers, executives or burger
flippers.

Remember, too, that doctors are mostly self-employed, so those numbers are
NET PROFIT (after paying BIG insurance costs, staff, rent,
this-that-and-the-other costs). In Gross income, it's probably more like a
couple million $$$.

Run a nicely profitable $60 million company and that income would not be out
of line. :~)
Keep it profitable in hard times and a higher number is certainly justified.






 




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