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  #111  
Old May 10th 04, 07:23 PM
David Dyer-Bennet
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"Tom Sixkiller" writes:

Remember, too, that doctors are mostly self-employed, so those numbers are
NET PROFIT (after paying BIG insurance costs, staff, rent,
this-that-and-the-other costs). In Gross income, it's probably more like a
couple million $$$.


You sure about that? I thought the march of managed care had caused
nearly all the private practices to go out of business.
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Old May 10th 04, 07:37 PM
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Jay Honeck wrote:

Agreed -- but, remember, George was referring to MIDDLE level managers
making that kind of money.


Yes. Our structure was that up to 15 people or so would be managed by a "Director".
Directors were managed by "Executive Directors". Executive Directors would be under
"Vice Presidents", with the CEO on top of the heap. Director salaries tended to start
about $80K and top out about $125K. Executive Directors started about $100K and might
possibly reach $190K. I was not made aware of the salaries of the CEO or AVPs. There
were also bonuses which were based on product sales ("performance-based pay", it was
called). If the product for which an ED was responsible did well that year, that ED's
salary could well be over $250K, even if the rest of the company was in dire
straights. That, of course, led to near-warfare between EDs as the situation
degenerated.

Also, if I recall, George was in the telecommunications industry. With the
increased competition in that field, the profit margins are way down.


Actually, with the exception of wireless, the competition wasn't a big factor. The
dotcom crash reduced demand for land-based equipment, including lines, servers,
multiplexing equipment, fiber, etc.. Suddenly the companies went from scrambling to
install more plant to having a surplus. Since much of our work was producing programs
to help companies efficiently plan for expansion, demand for our products took a
nosedive. We could've handled reduced profit margins, but when sales drop by 75% or
more, people have to go.

In the wireless technology field, however, competition was a big factor, and it is as
Jay stated. Sales were not good there, mainly because our owners factored an
exorbitant profit into the cost.

George Patterson
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  #113  
Old May 10th 04, 07:44 PM
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Bill Denton wrote:

But "corporate memory" is a valuable asset: if you hire a new machinist, he
generally doesn't need to know anything about the company in order to
immediately become productive.


Within limits, this is true at my former employer, but our slogan was "Performance
from Experience", and that experience will be vastly reduced if the company does turn
around.

George Patterson
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Old May 10th 04, 10:59 PM
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Jay

I had (he is now gone with his boots on in bed) a Doc (Flight Surgeon)
friend. Wife was widow of a Fighter Pilot friend of mine who bought
the farm in an early F-80 (small engine) taking off at Denver on a hot
day.

He (Doc) finished his tour and got out and located in Dallas. Family
was in Iowa and they wanted to take their children to see grandparents
over week ends. Helen got a PP in a 172 (all it takes is money).Then
they bought a Bo and continued flying and got her commercial and
Instrument. Joined the 99's and flew in the Powder Puff Derby's, etc.
High proficiency pilot.

After this, Ed got a doc's PP and they flew happily ever after.

Not only was he a good Doc but a smart one ) to make his wife the
FP. May he rest in peace.

Long story about him and his wife but not enough time or space to
write a book here )

Fly safe.

Big John


On Sun, 09 May 2004 12:32:02 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
wrote:

As to the "doctor killer"...I think that applies more to the
egotistical specialties like surgery, and I'm just a poor country
radiologist.


Good one! ;-)

Actually, most doctors make great pilots. What kills 'em is the fact that
they are too busy to stay current, and they end up flying into conditions
that they are no longer able to handle.


  #115  
Old May 10th 04, 11:18 PM
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Steve Robertson wrote:

There aren't any airplanes that flap their wings, either.


You've never heard of the ornithopter, then:

http://www.ornithopter.net/index_e.html

As soon as it's certified (well, as soon as it actually works), I'm
confident that all of the posters who made the
still-funny-after-all-these-years comment about birds not having wings on
the bottom will sell their current planes and buy one.


All the best,


David
  #116  
Old May 10th 04, 11:33 PM
Steven P. McNicoll
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"David Megginson" wrote in message
.rogers.com...
Steve Robertson wrote:

There aren't any airplanes that flap their wings, either.


You've never heard of the ornithopter, then:


Maybe he has, maybe he hasn't. He didn't say there were no aircraft that
flap their wings, he said there were no airplanes that flap their wings. As
an airplane is an aircraft that produces lift by driving a fixed wing
through the air, he's right.


  #117  
Old May 11th 04, 12:00 AM
Bob Noel
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In article ers.com,
David Megginson wrote:

The spar is typically below the floor -- I don't have a hump on the floor
of
my Cherokee,


What is that thing under the rear seat in my 140?

and I don't remember ever seeing one in an airliner. The
cargo
handlers will might to worry about it in the airliner, of course.


airliners have fuselages high enough that the passengers can be
above the spar.

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  #118  
Old May 11th 04, 12:48 AM
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
k.net...

"Peter Gottlieb" wrote in message
t...

Why do so many people equate the position of the wings to
one's "manliness?"


I wouldn't know, but I have observed that those that do so tend to fly
low-wing airplanes.


As in compensating for something?

Paul (who can strap guided missiles under the wings on my
plane...) (not related to the "compensating" thing...er...)


  #119  
Old May 11th 04, 12:50 AM
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"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
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Bob Fry wrote:

But at some point the boy must grow into the man, ....


Sez who?

"I wanna be a pilot when I grow up!"
"Son, you can't do both."


Some people in work mentioned things they were "in to" as
children. I said as a child I was into cars and planes. They
looked at me funny.

Paul


  #120  
Old May 11th 04, 12:56 AM
Paul Sengupta
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"tony" wrote in message
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High wined aircraft usually have two doors, low winged ones have one,


Mine doesn't have any doors. Or one big clear one wrapped
around the top, depending on how you look at it.

Paul


 




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