car seats in taxis

(J. Hansen) wrote in message . com...
I am planning a trip including my five year old son to Niagara falls
next weekend. We are flying into Niagra Falls International Airport
(IAG) and plan to stay only for the day. The problem is how to get
from the airport to the falls and back. The natural choice is a taxi,
but what do we do with the car seat once we get there? I'd rather not
carry it around all day. We could of course rent a car, but that
seems like an overkill just to create a place to put the car seat. Is
there any place to store a car seat near the falls? Is there any other
reasonable transportation from IAG to the falls for five adults and
two children that will not require a car seat (we can always leave it
on the plane)? or am I overly cautious in thinking we need a car seat
for two ten minute taxi rides?

Jeff H, CP-AM&SEL, CFII

Interesting how things change - When I was 5 years old, no one had
heard of car seats and I was riding around on a farm sitting on the
fender of a tractor.
--
Gene Seibel
The Farm - http://pad39a.com/gene/farm.html
Because I fly, I envy no one.

Try looking on line for convertible car seats.

there are several brands of car seat that "convert" into a stroller.

the kid may want to walk, but 3/4 of the strollers I see in the park are
just used to carry the cargo that goes with the kid anyway.

J. Hansen wrote:

I am planning a trip including my five year old son to Niagara falls
next weekend. We are flying into Niagra Falls International Airport
(IAG) and plan to stay only for the day. The problem is how to get
from the airport to the falls and back. The natural choice is a taxi,
but what do we do with the car seat once we get there? I'd rather not
carry it around all day. We could of course rent a car, but that
seems like an overkill just to create a place to put the car seat. Is
there any place to store a car seat near the falls? Is there any other
reasonable transportation from IAG to the falls for five adults and
two children that will not require a car seat (we can always leave it
on the plane)? or am I overly cautious in thinking we need a car seat
for two ten minute taxi rides?

Jeff H, CP-AM&SEL, CFII

In article , Cub Driver
wrote:

Personally, I have never been involved in a collision in 55 years of
driving. I faithfully buckle up every time I get in the car, but I
know in my heart that it is a waste of time.

I've been in two in the last 10 years. Both of them the other guy's
fault, and both of them would have been quite serious without the belt.

The latest incident? Last month, a Civic lost control in front of me
on a curve on the interstate, went from the exit ramp across my lane
(the right of 3 lanes) at about a 70-degree angle, and crunched right
into the guardrail at around 40 miles per hour. I pulled over, crossed
to the median when the traffic would allow, and found two people in bad
shape in the car.

Know why? Because their HEADS HIT THE DASHBOARD in what should have
otherwise been a mild impact. She was bleeding badly from her
forehead, and her passenger's right eye was pretty much destroyed.
Will they live? I'm sure. But if I'd been that guy with the smashed
eye, my commercial aviation career would be over. Not worth it to me.
Not at all.


People make mistakes and do stupid, dangerous things every day on the
roads. And equipment can and does fail from time to time. Until we
reach a point where neither of those is the case, I'll continue to
buckle my seatbelt.

You're fortunate you haven't ever been in an accident, and I hope it
stays that was. But statistically speaking, you as an active driver
have an 80% chance of being in an accident within the next 10 years.
You may feel like you're wasting your time, and I hope you're never
proven wrong. Me, I'm believing the odds and keeping the thing
strapped on.

--
Garner R. Miller
ATP/CFII/MEI
Manchester, CT =USA=

Peter Duniho opined

"gatt" wrote in message
...
You know, I'm fairly certain we all grew up just fine without kiddie car
seats, (and bike helmets, and...) so it's not like it's terribly unsafe.

What an odd statement.

All of the folks who flew in B-17s during WWII who might today write a
statement similar to yours managed to come out of it okay too. Does that
mean that being part of the crew on a B-17 over Germany is not "terribly
unsafe"?

Alternatively, instead of being "fairly certain we all grew up just fine
without kiddie car seats", you should consider the children who did NOT grow
up just fine, but instead were killed in a car accident that they would have
survived had they been in a car seat. There were a lot more of those kids
thirty years ago than there are today.

One wonders which is more dangerous, riding a few miles in a car without a
seatbelt (or kiddie seat), or flying in a light aircraft?



-ash
Cthulhu for President!
Why vote for a lesser evil?

I believe you can buy a relatively inexpensive seat belt attachment that
will allow you to adjust it to work properly on a child. I can't for the
life of me remember the brand name, but it is made of fabric (I think
nylon) and quite portable (roll it up and have your wife carry it in her
pocketbook). You slip the end of the seatbelt through this piece, and it
makes the shoulder strap actually go across your child's shoulder...

Might not be as good as a car seat, but definitely better than nothing!


(J. Hansen) wrote in news:3db2faf1.0405140835.6a89b6f4
@posting.google.com:

I am planning a trip including my five year old son to Niagara falls
next weekend. We are flying into Niagra Falls International Airport
(IAG) and plan to stay only for the day. The problem is how to get
from the airport to the falls and back. The natural choice is a taxi,
but what do we do with the car seat once we get there? I'd rather not
carry it around all day. We could of course rent a car, but that
seems like an overkill just to create a place to put the car seat. Is
there any place to store a car seat near the falls? Is there any other
reasonable transportation from IAG to the falls for five adults and
two children that will not require a car seat (we can always leave it
on the plane)? or am I overly cautious in thinking we need a car seat
for two ten minute taxi rides?

Jeff H, CP-AM&SEL, CFII

Warning to parent-aviators:

My daughter (who as previously posted is obsessive about car seats)
noted yesterday that the coming thing in state laws is car seats /
boosters for children under 80 pounds!

(Crikey, I've dated girls that weighed not much more than that!)

all the best -- Dan Ford
email: (put Cubdriver in subject line)

The Warbird's Forum www.warbirdforum.com
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Cub Driver wrote:

(Crikey, I've dated girls that weighed not much more than that!)

That law would've required that my first wife use a booster seat even after she got
her driver's license.

George Patterson
I childproofed my house, but they *still* get in.

When my kids were smaller I often ran into the same situation. I found
that businesses were very helpful with the car seats. I often found
that the admissions area of the place you are going to didn't mind
holding the seats, restuarants often would do the same if you ate
there.

-Robert, CFI

(J. Hansen) wrote in message . com...
I am planning a trip including my five year old son to Niagara falls
next weekend. We are flying into Niagra Falls International Airport
(IAG) and plan to stay only for the day. The problem is how to get
from the airport to the falls and back. The natural choice is a taxi,
but what do we do with the car seat once we get there? I'd rather not
carry it around all day. We could of course rent a car, but that
seems like an overkill just to create a place to put the car seat. Is
there any place to store a car seat near the falls? Is there any other
reasonable transportation from IAG to the falls for five adults and
two children that will not require a car seat (we can always leave it
on the plane)? or am I overly cautious in thinking we need a car seat
for two ten minute taxi rides?

Jeff H, CP-AM&SEL, CFII

On 15 May 04 13:03:22 -0500, "Ash Wyllie" wrote:

One wonders which is more dangerous, riding a few miles in a car without a
seatbelt (or kiddie seat), or flying in a light aircraft?

As a grandparent of two very young girls, I often have cause to notice
that the larger peril in their lives is not the risk of an automobile
accident, but of falling off their chairs in a restaurant, or indeed
of running into the corner of a table while chasing the cats.

all the best -- Dan Ford
email: (put Cubdriver in subject line)

The Warbird's Forum www.warbirdforum.com
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Viva Bush! blog www.vivabush.org

"Cub Driver" wrote in message
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There were a lot more of those kids
thirty years ago than there are today.

Are there really?

Yes, there are, really.

And what in the end is the difference between a one-in-a-million
chance and a one-in-999,999 chance?

Very little. But since those aren't the odds of being killed in a car
accident with or without a seatbelt, those numbers are irrelevant. Put them
back in your ass where they were in the first place.

Personally, I have never been involved in a collision in 55 years of
driving. I faithfully buckle up every time I get in the car, but I
know in my heart that it is a waste of time. By now I must have spent
*days* of my life buckling up.

Out of how many days? I'm sure it's a teeny tiny fraction. That said, if
it weren't for the fact that your medical expenses affect my bottom line, I
wouldn't care one bit whether you wear a seatbelt or not. But that's you.
We're talking about child seats, and children really don't have the capacity
to make the judgment for themselves whether to risk their lives in that way,
even if their medical expenses didn't hurt everyone else (which they do).

Pete