Pay for CFI's

"SD" c o f l y i n g @ p c i s y s d o t n e t wrote in message

I would have to agree with you Robert, The student is paying for my
time. I have to eat and pay my bills also,

My instructor charges strictly off the Hobbes time to the point where I've
actually insisted on paying her more after a half-hour ground briefing
before the flight. (IFR) Other instructors charge the flat $35/hr
whether it's ground or air instruction, and while I've had instructors who
charge a lesser fee for ground time, I don't mind paying it 'cause I know
what their time is worth.

If people only knew that I spend 12 or
more hours a day at the airport and usually get about 6 hours of pay
for that time then they would be a little more understanding.

To me it's a screaming shame that the people who are teaching skills
absolutely necessary to a young pilot's career AND SURVIVAL would make more
money hawking fuses at Radio Shack. Supply and demand is truly the law of
the land.

-c

"It is the Job that you have chosen deal with it." That's what I tell
people that complain about salary jobs that have to work longer than 40
hours a week. This is America we can chouse our place of employment and our
field of work but the sad this is most complain about it.



"SD" c o f l y i n g @ p c i s y s d o t n e t wrote in message
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On 20 May 2004 08:45:48 -0700, (Robert M. Gary)
wrote:

Cub Driver wrote in message
. ..

I've never understood that. Around here we even charge student pilots
on their first solo when we stand next to the runway with our handheld
radio and a camera.

-Robert, CFI


I would have to agree with you Robert, The student is paying for my
time. I have to eat and pay my bills also, If I have to be there for
the student, then they get charged, just like any other profession
where services are required. If people only knew that I spend 12 or
more hours a day at the airport and usually get about 6 hours of pay
for that time then they would be a little more understanding.


Scott D.

On Thu, 20 May 2004 16:29:31 -0700, "NW_PILOT"
wrote:

"It is the Job that you have chosen deal with it." That's what I tell
people that complain about salary jobs that have to work longer than 40
hours a week. This is America we can chouse our place of employment and our
field of work but the sad this is most complain about it.



You did not hear me complaining about it at all, I was just stating
the facts of the case. I actually love teaching and I am not looking
for a airline job, I fly part time for a company also that supplements
my needs as well as having a "understanding" wife that has a very well
paying job.

And to go along the lines of thinking that you have taken.... If you
cant stand the cost of learning how to fly and what I charge, deal
with it move along please, I have more than enough students then to
hear about someone complaining about paying for ground time.

Scott D.

On 20 May 2004 08:45:48 -0700, (Robert M. Gary)
wrote:

I've never understood that. Around here we even charge student pilots
on their first solo when we stand next to the runway with our handheld
radio and a camera.

That seems fair to me. But I had only one instructor, for about three
months, who charged me for the work he did on the ground (and he
didn't do it to begin with).


all the best -- Dan Ford
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Wow! I sure paid for the ground instruction I received.


It's not a universal practice even in New Jersey. I flew for three
days last year with Damian Delgaizo at Andover Flight Academy
(whatever) and he did at least half an hour of chalkwork with me on
each of the days, plus may a quarter of an hour debriefing. I paid on
the Hobbs. Of course it was a fair bunch of change ($150/hr) ) so
perhaps the ground time was already factored in.

It was a great experience, by the way.

all the best -- Dan Ford
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"Cub Driver" wrote in message
...

Locally, the *charge* is $25/hr. I don't know how much if any of that
the airport keeps back.

Most instructors locally don't charge for ground time

Your local instructors are pimps.

On Thu, 20 May 2004 16:29:31 -0700, NW_PILOT wrote:
"It is the Job that you have chosen deal with it." That's what I tell
people that complain about salary jobs that have to work longer than 40
hours a week. This is America we can chouse our place of employment and our
field of work but the sad this is most complain about it.

You're half right. We get to choose the field of work we would like
to be employed in... But our place of employment is often more about
what's available than what we would like.

TBS

On Fri, 21 May 2004 07:50:57 -0700, "C J Campbell"
wrote:

Your local instructors are pimps.

And you are a fool who evidently doesn't even know the meaning of
"pimp".

Your nastiness has been grating on me for some time, C.J. But now that
I read this statement, I realize that you are not only nasty but
potentially dangerous. Into the kill-file with you!

all the best -- Dan Ford
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On 22-May-2004, Cub Driver wrote:

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On Fri, 21 May 2004 07:50:57 -0700, "C J Campbell"
wrote:

Your local instructors are pimps.

And you are a fool who evidently doesn't even know the meaning of
"pimp".

Your nastiness has been grating on me for some time, C.J. But now that
I read this statement, I realize that you are not only nasty but
potentially dangerous. Into the kill-file with you!

all the best -- Dan Ford
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I also felt judging a man by what he charges per hour is no way to judge a
person.
Perhaps CJ has dealt mostly with pimps.

Les

And I feel that instructors who don't charge for their time hurt other
instructors.