Wrong pilot detained for TFR violation

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message news:fKXRc.277186$Oq2.192945@attbi_s52...

These closures suck, but again they affect a tiny subset of an already tiny
population of pilots. This doe not represent a major lifestyle change for
the average American, as Eduaro suggested.

You keepsaying "tiny" but your Iowa-centric mentality defrines AMERICA
by yourself. Maybe 23 airports is only a dozen planes and pilots in Iowa,
but here we're packed in pretty densely. The DC metro area has a population
of over 5 million nearly twice the population of Iowa.

Your statistics of 99.99999999 are spurious.

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:ZjYRc.259474$JR4.162601@attbi_s54...

Let's not confuse Conservatives with the Religious Right. While many
religious fruitcakes belong to the Republican Party, they no more
represent
the norm for that party than do the felons who vote overwhelmingly for the
Democrats.
--


I believe the Republicans are losing their party to these religious types
and it is making it a very hard choice for those of us with strong fiscal
(and broader) conservative ideals but who believe strongly in the separation
of church and state.

"Roger Halstead" wrote in message
...

OTOH I've never been able to understand how society can ignore nearly
50,000 deaths a year on the highway.


Yeah, that one mystifies me also. Highway deaths are basically ingored yet
exceed most other causes of death that society seems to go nuts over.

In article m6XRc.276981$Oq2.266297@attbi_s52,
Jay Honeck wrote:

Come to Iowa, Eduardo. We'll do some flying (using our cheap, sweet car
gas), have a few cold ones, and you can sit in one of our hot tubs with your
honey all night long. Maybe we'll take in a play, or visit the Amana
Colonies. Or perhaps we'll sit on the pedestrian mall, and listen to the
free Friday Night concert series?

If I go to the US, I will of course go visit you Jay. Iowa sounds
like a place I would love to live in also...




--
Eduardo Kaftanski |
| Freedom's just another word
http://e.nn.cl | for nothing left to loose.
|

Peter Duniho wrote:

One of the costs of having a truly equal society is that even the dumb
people get to vote. And there are a lot more dumb people than smart people.

This was really brought home to me the other day. I was putting in a shower fixture
at the appartment of a man who is 101 years old. His daughter handles all his
business. He seems to me to be a pleasant simpleton of a guy -- I'm sure that I won't
be that spry at his age, but that's not saying much.

Somebody at the complex came 'round to make sure he registered to vote and set up an
absentee ballot if he can't make it to the polls. And you are correct that this is a
cost that we must pay -- I certainly can't think of a decent alternative.

George Patterson
In Idaho, tossing a rattlesnake into a crowded room is felony assault.
In Tennessee, it's evangelism.

Recently, Andrew Gideon posted:

Peter Gottlieb wrote:

I believe the Republicans are losing their party to these religious
types and it is making it a very hard choice for those of us with
strong fiscal (and broader) conservative ideals but who believe
strongly in the separation of church and state.

Seconded. When I see a "conservative" administration taking actions
like putting tariffs on steel and pushing for an amendment defining
marriage, I realize that there's no "Convervative" in that
"conservative" administration. It's just another kind of liberal.

Please. Such positions are ignorantly Fascistic, not liberal. Trying to
sell us on the idea that record deficits are of no concern is liberal.
Fiscal irresponsibility is liberal. So, if the party embraces those that
hold such views, one merely has to decide where they stand on such points.
I don't find the choice all that hard to make.

Neil

Martin Hotze wrote:

I know that men don't love their in laws ... but don't you think that bringing
her to the vet is a little harsh?

I dunno -- she bites sometimes.

Hope she is doing OK after all.

That was a followup visit to some tests she had done. She goes in for a carotid
artery scrape next week.

George Patterson
If you want to know God's opinion of money, just look at the people
he gives it to.

The big difference I see is the number of people who now live in a state
of
low-level, nameless fear, and a few more people giving actual voice to
their
self-centered conspiracy imaginings.

This low-level, nameless fear seems to grip a lot of people, to one degree
or another -- but it was happening long before 9/11.

In fact, if I had to name one thing that holds many people back from greater
success, it would be this odd fear of the unknown. The terrorist attacks
just allowed these folks to attach a new label to their fears.

But that's a whole 'nuther thread, now isn't it?

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

What about:

This nation was founded by men of many nations and
backgrounds. It was founded on the principle that
all men are created equal, and that the rights of
every man are diminished when the rights of one man
are threatened.

That we no longer seem to believe this is indication enough of a
"lifestyle"
problem.

Well put, Andrew.

Personally, I was responding to Eduardo's broadside against American, by
proclaiming that our new lifestyle "sucks." By any common measure, this
is patently false.

The more subtle aspects of our loss of "rights" brought about by the closing
of certain airports is a different topic, in my opinion.

We can start down that road, if you'd like, progressing into the "is flying
a right, or a privilege?" topic, soon to be followed by the inevitable
name-calling...

Or shall we just cut right to the chase, as gentlemen, and start calling
each other "fascists" now?

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Neil Gould wrote:


Please. Such positions are ignorantly Fascistic, not liberal. Trying to
sell us on the idea that record deficits are of no concern is liberal.
Fiscal irresponsibility is liberal. So, if the party embraces those that
hold such views, one merely has to decide where they stand on such points.
I don't find the choice all that hard to make.

Interesting. I've been under the belief that "liberal" referred to the
freedom with which one read the Constitution and related documents. A
"conservative" reading limits government to what's described, a "liberal"
reading permit government to do whatever the reader thinks the authors
would have intended had they written the documents in the current era.

So what you're calling "liberal" above (a lack of fiscal responsibility) I'd
simply call "stupid" at best (at worse: dishonest, robbing future funds to
buy today's elections). As I understood the term, "liberal" is getting the
federal government involved in defining marriage, or in passing laws
granting the federal government more snooping rights.

Hmm...I suppose that this makes the tariffs not liberal but stupid (or
worse) by my own definition.

However, even using your definition, we've still a pretty liberal
administration in office today: tax breaks combined with war spending?
Deficits rising without consideration of consequences?

What's a good conservative to do?

- Andrew