Beer (was Worst Jokes At Oshkosh)

One word on the label had something to do with that. If you shipped your
beer out of state, there was an extra tax levied on it. This tax was
known
as a "premium". So, beer shipped from Wisconsin was marked "Premium"
beer.
Joe Six-Pack thought this meant it had to be extra good. Doh.

Sorry, but that sounds like an Urban Legend. Can you please cite a
source?

A tour guide at the Coors brewery. Or. . . you could try to look it up
yourself and cite a disclaiming source. )

I did. I checked with a guy who makes his living writing about beer.
He disagreed. He said, "No "export" tax involved, just marketing."

vince norris



Rich S.

BTW, hope you like the package.

Uh oh. Should I open it under water?

;-)
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"vincent p. norris" wrote in message
...

A tour guide at the Coors brewery. Or. . . you could try to look it up
yourself and cite a disclaiming source. )

I did. I checked with a guy who makes his living writing about beer.
He disagreed. He said, "No "export" tax involved, just marketing."

So, I guess "a tour guide" and "a guy" must be offsetting citations.

Draw.

Rich S.

A tour guide at the Coors brewery. Or. . . you could try to look it up
yourself and cite a disclaiming source. )

I did. I checked with a guy who makes his living writing about beer.
He disagreed. He said, "No "export" tax involved, just marketing."

So, I guess "a tour guide" and "a guy" must be offsetting citations.

Draw.

Rich S.

Well, Rich, surely you realize a tour guide is a salesman.
I'd be inclined to favor an autonomous writer.

vince norris

"Brian Burger" wrote in message
.tc.ca...
I was in the UK in 2000; and Foster's was the beer of choice... OK,
"Australia's Finest" is slightly better than Bud, but not by much, and
there're so many good local beers - why Fosters, for Dog's sake?

People drink Fosters because it's pretty much the same as any
other lager and it's cheaper.

The UK has gone through a bit of a crisis a "real ale" over the past
few decades. It's still happening and getting worse. It's like how
someone described the large breweries taking over due to their
marketing in the US. A lot of the smaller breweries here have been
taken over by the big ones and either completely closed or their
most popular brews discontinued.

Young people now drink lager. Real ale has an image problem, it's
seen as the drink of old men sitting around in a near empty pub.

A lot of advertising is done by the lager producers and as a result,
pretty much all young people, and many older people drink either
Carlsburg or Stella Artois...traditional but "trendy" foreign lagers.
Stella, in particular, has a good advertising campaign where the
lager is portrayed to be very expensive and highly prized, coupled
with its Belgian heritage. You can see their latest ad here (which
brings this back on topic if you watch the ad!).
http://www.stellaartois.co.uk/ and click on "advertising".

As far as I can recall, the only television advertising I can remember
for "real beer" was for John Smiths and for Worthingtons but neither
are/were very consistent.

Guinness advertising is another matter entirely.

Paul

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A lot of advertising is done by the lager producers and as a result,
pretty much all young people, and many older people drink either
Carlsburg or Stella Artois...traditional but "trendy" foreign lagers.
Stella, in particular, has a good advertising campaign where the
lager is portrayed to be very expensive and highly prized, coupled
with its Belgian heritage. You can see their latest ad here (which
brings this back on topic if you watch the ad!).
http://www.stellaartois.co.uk/ and click on "advertising".

As far as I can recall, the only television advertising I can remember
for "real beer" was for John Smiths and for Worthingtons but neither
are/were very consistent.
snip

For a summary of the triumph of advertising over taste buds (in the UK
at least), see he http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3188382.stm

I only drink bitter (except in emergencies, usually on vacation :-) )
and have no problem getting decent beer where I am.
In the US I am frequently found in San Francisco, and have frequently
found oodles of deliciousness there as well (Half Moon Bay on a Sunday
afternoon, with somebody else driving - heaven !! at least when the
weather is non-flyable).

Damian

"Paul Sengupta" wrote in message
news:cfq3r6$lf1 As far as I can recall, the only television advertising I
can remember
for "real beer" was for John Smiths and for Worthingtons but neither
are/were very consistent.

Oh, and Boddingtons...

In article , Paul Sengupta wrote:
Young people now drink lager. Real ale has an image problem, it's
seen as the drink of old men sitting around in a near empty pub.

It depends. I've never been a fan of lager. My local (The Bay, Port
Erin) is a real ale pub.

I see plenty of teenagers/early 20s in there.
Drinking real ale.

Of course the pub itself caters to a young audience - there's live
bands, the staff themselves are all young. (There's plenty of old farts
in there too, it seems to have this magical thing that's attractive to
all ages).

Plenty still drink alcopops (which are evil) and lager (which doesn't
taste of anything but CO2), but that's up to them. Most seem to like
proper beer.

Of course, the Isle of Man isn't the UK, and Bushy's (IMHO the best
brewery out of the three we have, and it's not the biggest either) has
managed to project an image here that sells to the younger audience, and
have managed to get themselves strongly associated with the TT thanks to
their merchanidise (t-shirts and the like). It therefore doesn't have
the old-men-in-a-smoky-pub image. Somewhere like here, it's not too
expensive to market well to the locals. However, in the UK, how does
Archers of Swindon compete with the marketing muscle of Foster's? They
can't. But once you get someone drinking proper hand-pulled beer, they
often wonder why they ever drank lager. It's getting them that first
pint that's the trouble.

Most of our pubs have proper beer engines too, there aren't many places
(really just hotel bars and the like) that only do CO2-driven beer.
Chilled, fizzy bitter tastes like cat's ****, and if you're somewhere
where there aren't many pubs with proper beer engines, you'll wind up
drinking lager. There is no subsitute for hand-pulling proper beer.

The other problem with real beer is you have to keep it properly. Many
'non-real ale' pubs keep bitters improperly or don't know how to keep
them, and it tastes terrible as a consequence. Lager on the other hand
is difficult to screw up, so it's easy to get the same bland taste every
time and consistently.

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"Dylan Smith" wrote in message
...
In article , Paul Sengupta
wrote:
Young people now drink lager. Real ale has an image problem, it's
seen as the drink of old men sitting around in a near empty pub.

It depends. I've never been a fan of lager. My local (The Bay, Port
Erin) is a real ale pub.

Neither have I, though it's not bad if a) it's a hot day and you're
thirsty, b) you're abroad, and c) you're in an Indian or Chinese
restaurant and you get Cobra or Tsing Tao.

I see plenty of teenagers/early 20s in there. Drinking real ale.

Ah. It's different in the country pubs, but go to any pub in a town
centre in Britain on a Friday or Saturday and you'll see a predominance
of lager and alcopops. At least in my (limited...ahem!) experience.

Plenty still drink alcopops (which are evil) and lager (which doesn't
taste of anything but CO2), but that's up to them. Most seem to like
proper beer.

One of our pubs in Guildford (actually, two of them) opened as a
real ale pub. They had wooden barrels with a good selection of
beers, and every week they would have various guest ales. Great!
Guess what...a couple of years ago the wooden barrels went, to be
replaced with brightly lit glass shelves stacked with alcopops.

But once you get someone drinking proper hand-pulled beer, they
often wonder why they ever drank lager. It's getting them that first
pint that's the trouble.

Who was it on here that quoted a poster : "Afraid you'll taste something
lager boy?"

Most of our pubs have proper beer engines too,

Beer engines? Like this one?
http://www.asciimation.co.nz/beer/
:-)

The other problem with real beer is you have to keep it properly.

Indeed. Probably the worst pint of Brains SA (Brewed in Cardiff) that
I've had was in Swansea. One of the best was down in a pub near
Guildford that had it as a guest ale. Mind you, that may have just been
homesick nostalgia! :-)

Paul

The other problem with real beer is you have to keep it properly. Many
'non-real ale' pubs keep bitters improperly or don't know how to keep
them, and it tastes terrible as a consequence. Lager on the other hand
is difficult to screw up, so it's easy to get the same bland taste every
time and consistently.

--

The other problem with real ale is that once it is ready to be drunk it
should be. Lager is sterilised and kept under pressure in it barrel which
extends its shelf life. Real beer needs to be drunk. Pubs with a good real
ale reputation earn it for selling beer in good condition. This is because
they have a good through put which means that the beer does not have time to
go off.
I am lucky the pub at the end of my road sells both draught Bass and
Pedigree via a proper pump engine.

I am spoilt for choice because after 6X these are my next two most favourite
beers.

cb