Run In With Mr. Edwards

Yup.

And I've been reading that psychos bull**** for way too long.

mike regish

"Grasshopper" wrote in message
m...



You have major issues.



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Ah, Young Grasshopper.
Sometimes it is eyes that blind a man.

On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 16:33:24 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
wrote:

Edwards, Kerry, Bush and Cheney have relatively little to do with these
low
level security details. All this stuff has long ago been delegated well
away from them. If anything, Kerry's campaign has requested that security
of this sort be less rather than more.

I'd say my experience serves as evidence to the contrary.

The Democrats claim to be the "party of the people" -- yet they treat
potential constituents like this? Heck, my family couldn't even approach
THE FENCE with a camera, let alone get close to Edwards himself.

And just how close do you think you would have got to Cheney or Bush? Let's
keep your inconvenience in perspective -- you are wrong to blame either
Edwards or the Democrats (I am actually a Republican, so this is an unbiased
comment).

Now, mind you, if Edwards was a "somebody" (I.E.: The Vice-President. The
President . The King. The Pope) I might understand this kind of
fascist-brand of security -- but he is NOBODY.

He is a vice-presidential CANDIDATE, which ranks him just ahead of Orca the
Whale in national importance.

The whole situation is absurd.

On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 13:42:28 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
wrote:

If they're going to close the damn
ramps then they should at least issue a notam so people can chose
not to go there.

Gosh, someone who "gets" it -- thank you!

Had I known Edwards was going to shut down operations at Signature, I would
have chosen the "other" FBO.

Are you sure the "other FBO" was not equally inconvenienced?


A simple NOTAM would have done the job, my family wouldn't have been treated
like suspected criminals, and he could have basked in royal security without
criticism. Hopefully someone from the FAA or Kerry campaign is taking
notes?

Jay Honeck wrote:

Edwards, Kerry, Bush and Cheney have relatively little to do with these
low
level security details. All this stuff has long ago been delegated well
away from them. If anything, Kerry's campaign has requested that security
of this sort be less rather than more.

I'd say my experience serves as evidence to the contrary.

The Democrats claim to be the "party of the people" -- yet they treat
potential constituents like this? Heck, my family couldn't even approach
THE FENCE with a camera, let alone get close to Edwards himself.

The same VP candidate of the "party of the people" was decrying the working
people living paycheck to paycheck at the People's Party convention in Boston
last month. This of course was after the DNC and its leaders loudly instructed
everyone who lives or works in or near Boston to stay home while the party
bosses were in town to play. Just stay home. Take the week off.

Larry Dighera wrote:

Welcome to the 21st century! Robert Heinline predicted this and much
more in the settings of his novels.

On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 13:25:41 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
wrote in
p91Wc.21556$9d6.17529@attbi_s54::

If this is what we have to look forward to under a
Kerry/Edwards presidency, I fear the worst is yet to come.

I believe it is what occurred during Dubuah's reign.

But I share your confidence that the Kerry presidency is assured.

Kerry himself has so much confidence in his campaign that he is still a
US Senator. Since he doesn't bother to show up to work or even vote to
represent his constituents, why not resign now since the election is
coming up quick and surely he must think he will win?
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/05/11/kerry.vote/ Of course if he
can't do his job as just a Senator, I'm sure he'll be a great President
who can boldly lead. What's his stand on voting for Iraq again?

Contrast with Senator Bob Dole who had the integrity to resign from the
Senate and then be a presidential candidate.

I propose that as part of the "Campaign Finance Reform" that the
following rules be applied to *all* campaign visits at all levels. If
the visit is going to inconvenience more than 5... OK ... 10
individuals, or businesses it must be canceled. The same is true for
campaign speeches whether in person, on radio, or TV.
I'd add that third parties should be given half of each candidates
slush fund for their own advertising be it pro or con.

Just think how peaceful election years would become.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

Jim Weir wrote:

Only if it is the Democrat. If it is the Republican, stand by for flowers and
poetry.

Is Golan Cipel the poet on duty?

Bob Fry wrote:

Jim Weir writes:
[A lot of good stuff]

Right on, Mr. Weir.

I was 18 in '73 and they were only drafting the first 20 or 30
numbers, and that's how I missed the draft. A good thing too...I know
I would have been f***ed in the head if I had been forced to go.

The son of a good friend of mine came back messed up in the
head...never did get back to normal.

Another friend who tramped around in the jungle for a year died of
liver cancer at age 52. Agent Orange? Maybe. The brother of another
friend also died of some weird cancer which the military finally
admitted was caused by AO.

I hope Vietnam can once again become the name of a country, not a
stupid war we arrogantly got involved in. Who's the real traitor--try
LBJ.

I respect the military, but sure as hell don't worship them like some
posters in these newsgroups. Hurray for Kerry, who actually uses his
brain to think, instead of his balls. The man joined up and served
honorably, saw with his own eyes what a screwed up situation the war
was, came home and tried to do something about it. What was Shrub
doing, BTW? Coke and booze?

I'm sure you voted for George HW Bush with his war record and Bob Dole
with his war record over draft dodging Mr. Clinton, since military service
is very, very important to you, right? Lots of people served honorably in
many places. But that doesn't give them a free ride to be President or a
free pass to strike from the record 20 years of a US Senate record and
Dukakis's lt governor before that. What is Mr Kerry's position on voting
for Iraq again?

Jim Weir wrote:

Then, Jay, you are a generation behind me. You didn't SWEAT your ass going to
some rice paddy in Vietnam. You didn't LIVE your life hoping against hope that
your draft board wouldn't haul your ass out of college and send you with a rifle
to some country that you couldn't have given a rat's ass less about.

Me? I got lucky. My draft board thought that my work on Apollo was "in the
national interest" and I got a deferment. The engineer on the next desk wasn't
so lucky; he came home less his left arm.

You have absolutely no chops to criticize Kerry unless you were in the Vietnam
draft mix. You were not. Shut the hell up.

Huh? Nobody is permitted to criticize Kerry if they weren't draft eligible 30+
years ago? Oh yes, a real constitution advocate you are. Why stop there?? Why
not just say that nobody is permitted to criticize Kerry unless they were fighting
in Vietnam? Which rice paddy were you earning your first amendment rights in
again? Shut the hell up indeed. By your logic an entire sex shouldn't be
permitted to criticize Kerry. We should just appoint him king kerry right now
because anything said that isn't a complement is out of line.

Using your supreme logic, Bob Dole can't even criticize John Kerry because he
doesn't have the proper military service credentials to do so.

mike regish wrote:

CJ. **** You, you sanctimonious, psycotic piece of ****, faggot, scum
sucking, lying whore of the bushies.

I've wanted to say that for a long ****ing time but didn't out of
poloiteness to the rest of the group. . **** that and **** you. I hope you
rot in your own excrement.

And your faggot, coward loverboy Bush is the biggest, phoniest asshole I've
ever seen. It's people like you who **** up the bell curve and make it
possible for such lying sack of ****, self serving liars to get in office to
begin with.

Oh, I see. You don't have a logical argument nor position, so you are forced to
use sexuality slurs and reduce yourself to homophobic language as you call
somebody names. Would you shout those same words in the streets of your
hometown, Northhampton? Or do you reserve your toughness for behind your very
tough keyboard?

And actually, I don't believe CJ made it possible for Clinton to get in office
at all.