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Old August 24th 04, 05:02 PM
Trent Moorehead
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"Newps" wrote in message
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There was a 10% surcharge on cars over $30K, airplanes over $100K and
boats over some number I don't recall right now. The boating industry
was hit the hardest because there are lots of small boat builders who
build high end boats. These people were effectively shut down as orders
dried up. What the lefties failed to realize was that these purchases
were nearly 100% discretionary. As such sales dried up completely for
the boats and thousands were left out of work and hundrreds of small
companies went bankrupt. Virtually no tax money was collected. You'll
never see a stick it top the rich surcharge like that again.


I was working at Hatteras Yachts designing megayachts (92ft and up) at the
time. I was fairly liberal back then and right out of college. I wasn't
making much money, so soaking the rich felt like a good thing to do. Heck,
they can afford it, right? Greedy fat *******s.

Boy was I ignorant. Layoffs began within a couple of months of the passage
of that stupid tax. We also had a recession at the time. Rich folks are the
ones who can weather a recession and will still spend money, but that tax
deterred them from spending money on things like yachts. It essentially
destroyed the place. I never got laid off, but things got really bad for the
ones left behind. Hatteras survived, but many of its competitors did not.
The local economy was also adversely affected as well.

What a stupid tax! Any policy based on class envy should be examined
extremely closely. I am also very suspicious of very wealthy polititians who
want to penalize wealthy people by increasing their taxes. Will they really
put their John Hancock on a tax that could cost them huge bucks personally?

-Trent
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  #182  
Old August 24th 04, 05:06 PM
Tom S.
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"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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Welcome to the 21st century! Robert Heinline predicted this and much
more in the settings of his novels.

On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 13:25:41 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
wrote in
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If this is what we have to look forward to under a
Kerry/Edwards presidency, I fear the worst is yet to come.


I believe it is what occurred during Dubuah's reign.

But I share your confidence that the Kerry presidency is assured.


I sincerely hope not.

I guess he hasn't seen that Econometrics dude up in Pennsylvania that has
projected the last eight elections from six months out within a very few
points. In 2000 he predicted Bush at 52-48 and by 30 or so electoral votes
which is about right when you factor in the five states with significant
vote frauds; Wisc., Minn, Penn, NW, Oregon and possibly Iowa. Outside of
Penn (where in just two or three counties there were more votes for Gore
than people over 18--in the rest Gore won by 4000-5000 votes.

The guy in Pennsylvania is predicting Bush to take 58% of the popular vote
and around 40 states.


  #183  
Old August 24th 04, 05:08 PM
Tom S.
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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While I share some of your distaste for Mr. Kerry, CJ, I think you've

taken
your point "a bit" too far. Kerry is (or, at least, was) an honorable

man,
and I wish him the best in the upcoming election.


He NEVER was an honorable man and now he's just a psychotic and pathological
liar that's been shoved in front of the camera for "one last fling" much
the way Bob Dole was in 1996.


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Old August 24th 04, 05:09 PM
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"Jay Honeck" writes:

But C J never stoops to profanity,


That's appreciated.

nor will he fall to the level of 4th
grade name-calling.


Is it 5th grade when children learn to call entire populations of people
"cockroaches" and advocate their destruction?
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm....w a.home.com

--kyler
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Old August 24th 04, 05:10 PM
Tom S.
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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Kerry is (or, at least, was) an honorable man,
and I wish him the best in the upcoming election.


He "was", until the tragic inconvenience of you having to sit in an FBO

for
an hour?


No, Kerry was honorable until he went on TV blasting the behavior of his
country and his fellow soldiers, while the Viet Nam war was in progress

and
his comrades were still being held prisoner.


His entire military career was a fake and a setup (posed pictures and
recreated video footage), not to mention the fact he was a backshooting
murderer.



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Old August 24th 04, 05:17 PM
Tom S.
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"Dave Stadt" wrote in message
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"Jay Masino" wrote in message
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Jay Honeck wrote:
I blamed the Democratic V.P. candidate directly because that is where

the
blame lies. In my world, the boss takes the blame for his

subordinates.

Edwards has absolutely no control over what the Secret Service does.


100 percent not true.


He had bodyguards when he was a civilian and demanded police escorts when a
Senator, I've heard.


  #187  
Old August 24th 04, 05:20 PM
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Bob Noel wrote in message ...
In article ,
(C Kingsbury) wrote:

Meanwhile the
notion of a luxury tax, tried under Bush I, was so thoroughly
discredited by experience that it likely won't be heard from for
another generation. It devastated the boatbuilding industry so badly
even the big lefties had to admit it was a dumb idea.


really? Somehow I missed the big lefties admitting that. Do you
have a source for that? I'm not challenging you, I'd just like
to see it.


I'm probably extrapolating a bit too much from wishful thinking but I
strongly doubt we'll see anything like it again for a while.

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/ThisW...ll_030112.html

The fact that the tax battered companies in Maine, Massachusetts, and
Rhode Island had a lot to do with the fact that Congress set a
land-speed record rescinding it. New taxes usually take generations to
get rid of; this one took less than a decade.

Likewise, it's easy to demonize the owners of G-Vs, but every senator
would kill to have Gulfstream build a new factory in their state.

Best,
-cwk.
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Old August 24th 04, 05:20 PM
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"Newps" wrote in message
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really? Somehow I missed the big lefties admitting that. Do you
have a source for that? I'm not challenging you, I'd just like
to see it.


There was a 10% surcharge on cars over $30K, airplanes over $100K and
boats over some number I don't recall right now. The boating industry
was hit the hardest because there are lots of small boat builders who
build high end boats. These people were effectively shut down as orders
dried up. What the lefties failed to realize was that these purchases
were nearly 100% discretionary. As such sales dried up completely for
the boats and thousands were left out of work and hundrreds of small
companies went bankrupt. Virtually no tax money was collected. You'll
never see a stick it top the rich surcharge like that again.


Not only was virtually no revenue collected, but the costs were significant
(companies that go under don't pay ANY taxes, unemployment, etc.)


  #189  
Old August 24th 04, 05:24 PM
Michael 182
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"Tom S." wrote in message
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His entire military career was a fake and a setup (posed pictures and
recreated video footage)



lol - and Neil Armstong never landed on the moon and the Holocaust was all a
fake...

Michael


  #190  
Old August 24th 04, 05:29 PM
Geoffrey Barnes
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His entire military career was a fake and a setup (posed pictures and
recreated video footage), not to mention the fact he was a backshooting
murderer.


Wow! The conspiracy theorists are getting faster and faster these days.
With Clinton, they at least waited until he was in office before they
accused him of murder. Kerry's not even getting a honeymoon on groundless
murder accusations! That poor man!

Next, you'll be telling me that Kerry was directly behind the "accident"
that killed Senator Heinz and left Theresa free to marry again.


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