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![]() "Newps" wrote in message ... There was a 10% surcharge on cars over $30K, airplanes over $100K and boats over some number I don't recall right now. The boating industry was hit the hardest because there are lots of small boat builders who build high end boats. These people were effectively shut down as orders dried up. What the lefties failed to realize was that these purchases were nearly 100% discretionary. As such sales dried up completely for the boats and thousands were left out of work and hundrreds of small companies went bankrupt. Virtually no tax money was collected. You'll never see a stick it top the rich surcharge like that again. I was working at Hatteras Yachts designing megayachts (92ft and up) at the time. I was fairly liberal back then and right out of college. I wasn't making much money, so soaking the rich felt like a good thing to do. Heck, they can afford it, right? Greedy fat *******s. Boy was I ignorant. Layoffs began within a couple of months of the passage of that stupid tax. We also had a recession at the time. Rich folks are the ones who can weather a recession and will still spend money, but that tax deterred them from spending money on things like yachts. It essentially destroyed the place. I never got laid off, but things got really bad for the ones left behind. Hatteras survived, but many of its competitors did not. The local economy was also adversely affected as well. What a stupid tax! Any policy based on class envy should be examined extremely closely. I am also very suspicious of very wealthy polititians who want to penalize wealthy people by increasing their taxes. Will they really put their John Hancock on a tax that could cost them huge bucks personally? -Trent PP-ASEL |
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![]() "C J Campbell" wrote in message ... "Larry Dighera" wrote in message ... Welcome to the 21st century! Robert Heinline predicted this and much more in the settings of his novels. On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 13:25:41 GMT, "Jay Honeck" wrote in p91Wc.21556$9d6.17529@attbi_s54:: If this is what we have to look forward to under a Kerry/Edwards presidency, I fear the worst is yet to come. I believe it is what occurred during Dubuah's reign. But I share your confidence that the Kerry presidency is assured. I sincerely hope not. I guess he hasn't seen that Econometrics dude up in Pennsylvania that has projected the last eight elections from six months out within a very few points. In 2000 he predicted Bush at 52-48 and by 30 or so electoral votes which is about right when you factor in the five states with significant vote frauds; Wisc., Minn, Penn, NW, Oregon and possibly Iowa. Outside of Penn (where in just two or three counties there were more votes for Gore than people over 18--in the rest Gore won by 4000-5000 votes. The guy in Pennsylvania is predicting Bush to take 58% of the popular vote and around 40 states. |
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![]() "Jay Honeck" wrote in message news:%F9Wc.69882$TI1.15818@attbi_s52... While I share some of your distaste for Mr. Kerry, CJ, I think you've taken your point "a bit" too far. Kerry is (or, at least, was) an honorable man, and I wish him the best in the upcoming election. He NEVER was an honorable man and now he's just a psychotic and pathological liar that's been shoved in front of the camera for "one last fling" much the way Bob Dole was in 1996. |
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"Jay Honeck" writes:
But C J never stoops to profanity, That's appreciated. nor will he fall to the level of 4th grade name-calling. Is it 5th grade when children learn to call entire populations of people "cockroaches" and advocate their destruction? http://groups.google.com/groups?selm....w a.home.com --kyler |
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![]() "Jay Honeck" wrote in message news:f5dWc.214469$eM2.93226@attbi_s51... Kerry is (or, at least, was) an honorable man, and I wish him the best in the upcoming election. He "was", until the tragic inconvenience of you having to sit in an FBO for an hour? No, Kerry was honorable until he went on TV blasting the behavior of his country and his fellow soldiers, while the Viet Nam war was in progress and his comrades were still being held prisoner. His entire military career was a fake and a setup (posed pictures and recreated video footage), not to mention the fact he was a backshooting murderer. |
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![]() "Dave Stadt" wrote in message ... "Jay Masino" wrote in message ... Jay Honeck wrote: I blamed the Democratic V.P. candidate directly because that is where the blame lies. In my world, the boss takes the blame for his subordinates. Edwards has absolutely no control over what the Secret Service does. 100 percent not true. He had bodyguards when he was a civilian and demanded police escorts when a Senator, I've heard. |
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Bob Noel wrote in message ...
In article , (C Kingsbury) wrote: Meanwhile the notion of a luxury tax, tried under Bush I, was so thoroughly discredited by experience that it likely won't be heard from for another generation. It devastated the boatbuilding industry so badly even the big lefties had to admit it was a dumb idea. really? Somehow I missed the big lefties admitting that. Do you have a source for that? I'm not challenging you, I'd just like to see it. I'm probably extrapolating a bit too much from wishful thinking but I strongly doubt we'll see anything like it again for a while. http://abcnews.go.com/sections/ThisW...ll_030112.html The fact that the tax battered companies in Maine, Massachusetts, and Rhode Island had a lot to do with the fact that Congress set a land-speed record rescinding it. New taxes usually take generations to get rid of; this one took less than a decade. Likewise, it's easy to demonize the owners of G-Vs, but every senator would kill to have Gulfstream build a new factory in their state. Best, -cwk. |
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![]() "Newps" wrote in message ... really? Somehow I missed the big lefties admitting that. Do you have a source for that? I'm not challenging you, I'd just like to see it. There was a 10% surcharge on cars over $30K, airplanes over $100K and boats over some number I don't recall right now. The boating industry was hit the hardest because there are lots of small boat builders who build high end boats. These people were effectively shut down as orders dried up. What the lefties failed to realize was that these purchases were nearly 100% discretionary. As such sales dried up completely for the boats and thousands were left out of work and hundrreds of small companies went bankrupt. Virtually no tax money was collected. You'll never see a stick it top the rich surcharge like that again. Not only was virtually no revenue collected, but the costs were significant (companies that go under don't pay ANY taxes, unemployment, etc.) |
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![]() "Tom S." wrote in message ... His entire military career was a fake and a setup (posed pictures and recreated video footage) lol - and Neil Armstong never landed on the moon and the Holocaust was all a fake... Michael |
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His entire military career was a fake and a setup (posed pictures and
recreated video footage), not to mention the fact he was a backshooting murderer. Wow! The conspiracy theorists are getting faster and faster these days. With Clinton, they at least waited until he was in office before they accused him of murder. Kerry's not even getting a honeymoon on groundless murder accusations! That poor man! Next, you'll be telling me that Kerry was directly behind the "accident" that killed Senator Heinz and left Theresa free to marry again. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.742 / Virus Database: 495 - Release Date: 8/19/2004 |
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