Pilots and driving

Jeff Glenn wrote:

Are there any other places that have high potential for pilot
distraction while driving?

My daily commute is a motorway that runs more or less parallel to the
approach path of ELLX (Luxembourg). After many miles, the motorway crosses
underneath the runway over-run (see a picture at
http://www.laca.lu/typo3temp/e3d3be8b25.jpg).

ELLX has a big cargo airline on the field, so on many days I get to see a
nice 747-400, among lots of smaller traffic. Most spectular is a heavy jet
just departing when I go underneath the runway. I have had days where the
roar directly over my head was the first clue of a take-off taking place.
This particular experience has influenced the equipment choices for my
current car, where I specified a transparent sunroof. :-)


Greetings,
Markus

"Henry Kisor" wrote in message ...
What is it about Chino, anyway? Some years ago I took a ride on a DC-3 that
was part of an air show at Cable airport in Upland, Calif. When I climbed
aboard I noticed a definite aroma of cow manure.

I have flown over feedlots in Kansas and noticed a definite odor at
over 1000 feet. Also, odor from grass fires gets really strong too.
--
Gene Seibel
Hangar 131 - http://pad39a.com/gene/plane.html
Because I fly, I envy no one.

Cub Driver wrote:

Well, there are stockyards all along the road to Chino, but that
shouldn't linger in the aircraft.

Well, a DC-3 is likely to stay on the ground most of the time. After sitting in that
atmosphere for a long time, I think it would take lots of airing out to remove the
smell.

George Patterson
If you want to know God's opinion of money, just look at the people
he gives it to.

Well, there are stockyards all along the road to Chino, but that
shouldn't linger in the aircraft.


Maybe not, but it likes to linger every where else.
I smelled it just the other morning while getting ready to buzz out of
Ontario..
I even smelled it when I lived in Anaheim when the winds were blowing just
right.


-John
*You are nothing until you have flown a Douglas, Lockheed, Grumman or North
American*

Cub Driver wrote:
On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 15:47:17 -0500, "Henry Kisor"
wrote:


plane was redolent of cattle poop. "Oh, it's from Chino," he said, as if
that explained it all, and he offered no details.


Well, there are stockyards all along the road to Chino, but that
shouldn't linger in the aircraft.


Once, while driving down the freeway east of Chino during Santa Ana
winds, I noticed that there was a lot of brown stuff from a nearby
stockyard moving horizontally across the freeway. Hot, dry winds can
carry manure dust everywhere and some of it probably gets into airplanes
at Chino.




- Jeff

On Mon, 30 Aug 2004, Gene Seibel wrote:

"Henry Kisor" wrote in message ...
What is it about Chino, anyway? Some years ago I took a ride on a DC-3 that
was part of an air show at Cable airport in Upland, Calif. When I climbed
aboard I noticed a definite aroma of cow manure.

I have flown over feedlots in Kansas and noticed a definite odor at
over 1000 feet. Also, odor from grass fires gets really strong too.

Pulp & paper mills can be nasty smelling at 2500ft or more above them...
there's a mill below one of our local practice areas, and on a hot day it
reeks up there. Add a bit of turbulence and a hood, and you're not going
to have much fun after a while.

That was the only inst. flight I ever had to tell the instructor I was
taking the hood off, because I was afraid I was going to loose it (and my
lunch...)!

Brian.

On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 20:48:24 -0700, Jeff Glenn
wrote:

Once, while driving down the freeway east of Chino during Santa Ana
winds, I noticed that there was a lot of brown stuff from a nearby
stockyard moving horizontally across the freeway. Hot, dry winds can
carry manure dust everywhere and some of it probably gets into airplanes
at Chino.

Aha!

(Having asthma in Chino must really give you something to think
about.)

I guess the day was calm when I visited Planes of Fame. I smelled the
aroma driving to the airport but didn't notice it particularly while
wandering around.

all the best -- Dan Ford
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"Brian Burger" wrote in message
ia.tc.ca...
On Mon, 30 Aug 2004, Gene Seibel wrote:

"Henry Kisor" wrote in message
...
What is it about Chino, anyway? Some years ago I took a ride on a DC-3
that
was part of an air show at Cable airport in Upland, Calif. When I
climbed
aboard I noticed a definite aroma of cow manure.

I have flown over feedlots in Kansas and noticed a definite odor at
over 1000 feet. Also, odor from grass fires gets really strong too.

Pulp & paper mills can be nasty smelling at 2500ft or more above them...

The downwind leg to the north of Bartow in Florida smells of
orange zest. There's an orange processing plant underneath.

Paul

On Tue, 31 Aug 2004, Paul Sengupta wrote:

"Brian Burger" wrote in message

Pulp & paper mills can be nasty smelling at 2500ft or more above them...

The downwind leg to the north of Bartow in Florida smells of
orange zest. There's an orange processing plant underneath.

I'm betting that smells a LOT better than a pulp mill, although it might
get a bit cloying after a while... "One more circuit, then we're done,
because this plane is starting to smell like cheap potpourri!"

Brian.

Brian Burger wrote:

I'm betting that smells a LOT better than a pulp mill, although it might
get a bit cloying after a while...

Pulp mills aren't as bad as the old rayon/rubber plants at Enka, NC. Dunno if they're
still there, but people would make long detours to avoid Enka when I was young.

George Patterson
If you want to know God's opinion of money, just look at the people
he gives it to.