Joking?

I repeat.. I see nothing on a "National Card"
and you already are "tagged" with a number from birth to death.. SSAN

BT

"SelwayKid" wrote in message
om...
"BTIZ" wrote in message
news:dXJ9d.10022$_a3.7048@fed1read05...
Selway.... I think you may be exaggerating..
I read parts of S.2774 to show a "standard" for "state" issued ID cards..
like drivers licenses.. that they all meet certain standards prior to
issue
to conform to critera and confirm the proper identification of the
individual on the card... before the "national" or "federal" authorities
will accept them as "proper id"
BT

BT I doubt I'll be alive to see it, but you can mark this one down in
bronze. Once the national ID card is law, and it will be, the social
security number will be your personal national ID number, and sometime
in the future there will be a provision for that number to be
imprinted/implanted in/on your body to be read by special equipment
that only your benevolent government will have (or so it will be
claimed) and all they have to do is point said equipment at you to
know all they need to know. It will all be on one big data base. It
isn't hard at all to show this theory at work either. Prized animals
already have this technology in use and its a short step to convince
some young mother that her children should have this protection too
and once they grow up with it, ..."well I've had it all my life so
what is wrong with it?..." and so it goes.
Selway Kid

"SelwayKid" wrote in message
m...
Unless you think its all a joke, the recent TSA requirement for CFI's
to register with them, and do their own bookkeeping. making a database
at your expense, all in the name of national security, take another
look at what is happening.
H.R.10 and S.2774 for a National Identity Card are right behind it.
I've been warning of this for over 20 years and now its happening
while we sleep.
Not sure about you all but I sure as hell am making some noise about
it.If you want to be stopped on the street and asked for your papers,
and get locked up for not having them, ..........
Better take a stand now before its too late.

I repeat.. I see nothing on a "National Card"
and you already are "tagged" with a number from birth to death.. SSAN

BT

"SelwayKid" wrote in message
om...
"BTIZ" wrote in message
news:dXJ9d.10022$_a3.7048@fed1read05...
Selway.... I think you may be exaggerating..
I read parts of S.2774 to show a "standard" for "state" issued ID cards..
like drivers licenses.. that they all meet certain standards prior to
issue
to conform to critera and confirm the proper identification of the
individual on the card... before the "national" or "federal" authorities
will accept them as "proper id"
BT

BT I doubt I'll be alive to see it, but you can mark this one down in
bronze. Once the national ID card is law, and it will be, the social
security number will be your personal national ID number, and sometime
in the future there will be a provision for that number to be
imprinted/implanted in/on your body to be read by special equipment
that only your benevolent government will have (or so it will be
claimed) and all they have to do is point said equipment at you to
know all they need to know. It will all be on one big data base. It
isn't hard at all to show this theory at work either. Prized animals
already have this technology in use and its a short step to convince
some young mother that her children should have this protection too
and once they grow up with it, ..."well I've had it all my life so
what is wrong with it?..." and so it goes.
Selway Kid

"SelwayKid" wrote in message
m...
Unless you think its all a joke, the recent TSA requirement for CFI's
to register with them, and do their own bookkeeping. making a database
at your expense, all in the name of national security, take another
look at what is happening.
H.R.10 and S.2774 for a National Identity Card are right behind it.
I've been warning of this for over 20 years and now its happening
while we sleep.
Not sure about you all but I sure as hell am making some noise about
it.If you want to be stopped on the street and asked for your papers,
and get locked up for not having them, ..........
Better take a stand now before its too late.

Judah wrote:

When was the last time you were stopped on the street for no apparent
reason and asked to produce your ID card under threat of being thrown in
prison without due process if you happened to forget it at home that day?

Atlanta, Georgia, 1973.

George Patterson
If a man gets into a fight 3,000 miles away from home, he *had* to have
been looking for it.

Judah wrote:

When was the last time you were stopped on the street for no apparent
reason and asked to produce your ID card under threat of being thrown in
prison without due process if you happened to forget it at home that day?

Atlanta, Georgia, 1973.

George Patterson
If a man gets into a fight 3,000 miles away from home, he *had* to have
been looking for it.

"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
...


Judah wrote:

When was the last time you were stopped on the street for no apparent
reason and asked to produce your ID card under threat of being thrown in
prison without due process if you happened to forget it at home that
day?

Atlanta, Georgia, 1973.

George Patterson
If a man gets into a fight 3,000 miles away from home, he *had* to
have
been looking for it.

An aggressive cop stopped me in my quiet neighborhood a few months ago and
demanded ID. I was taking a late night walk in sweat pants to burn off a
few calories. I told him I didn't have any ID and was in my own
neighborhood not bothering anybody and unaccustomed to being accosted by an
officer pulling his cruiser over into my path, blocking me. Then did he
ever become hostile and told me to take my hands out of my pockets. I did
as he said until they became cold and back into my pockets they went. This
time he threatened me with handcuffs and jail, and then he went off the
charts when my hands went back into their pockets. "Take them out!" he
snapped.

"No, I won't," I said, as I turned my pockets inside out to show him there
was nothing in them "and if you arrest me you'd better have a damn good
reason in law for it." He began to reach for me as if to grab my arm and I
quickly stepped back, pulling away from him. "Now you've assaulted me," I
said. "I have lived here in this town for the better part of two decades,"
I said firmly, "and this is the first time in my experience I have been
menaced by a law officer."

"I am NOT 'mentacing' you," he says.

He was so taken aback he went completely silent for a moment, then said,
"OK, move along then." Which I did, almost leaving in a trot. Off he went
in the other direction spinning his wheels and screeching his tires.

"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
...


Judah wrote:

When was the last time you were stopped on the street for no apparent
reason and asked to produce your ID card under threat of being thrown in
prison without due process if you happened to forget it at home that
day?

Atlanta, Georgia, 1973.

George Patterson
If a man gets into a fight 3,000 miles away from home, he *had* to
have
been looking for it.

An aggressive cop stopped me in my quiet neighborhood a few months ago and
demanded ID. I was taking a late night walk in sweat pants to burn off a
few calories. I told him I didn't have any ID and was in my own
neighborhood not bothering anybody and unaccustomed to being accosted by an
officer pulling his cruiser over into my path, blocking me. Then did he
ever become hostile and told me to take my hands out of my pockets. I did
as he said until they became cold and back into my pockets they went. This
time he threatened me with handcuffs and jail, and then he went off the
charts when my hands went back into their pockets. "Take them out!" he
snapped.

"No, I won't," I said, as I turned my pockets inside out to show him there
was nothing in them "and if you arrest me you'd better have a damn good
reason in law for it." He began to reach for me as if to grab my arm and I
quickly stepped back, pulling away from him. "Now you've assaulted me," I
said. "I have lived here in this town for the better part of two decades,"
I said firmly, "and this is the first time in my experience I have been
menaced by a law officer."

"I am NOT 'mentacing' you," he says.

He was so taken aback he went completely silent for a moment, then said,
"OK, move along then." Which I did, almost leaving in a trot. Off he went
in the other direction spinning his wheels and screeching his tires.

On Sat, 9 Oct 2004 15:27:28 -0400, " jls"
wrote in ::


An aggressive cop stopped me in my quiet neighborhood a few months ago and
demanded ID. I was taking a late night walk in sweat pants to burn off a
few calories. I told him I didn't have any ID and was in my own
neighborhood not bothering anybody and unaccustomed to being accosted by an
officer pulling his cruiser over into my path, blocking me. Then did he
ever become hostile and told me to take my hands out of my pockets. I did
as he said until they became cold and back into my pockets they went. This
time he threatened me with handcuffs and jail, and then he went off the
charts when my hands went back into their pockets. "Take them out!" he
snapped.

"No, I won't," I said, as I turned my pockets inside out to show him there
was nothing in them "and if you arrest me you'd better have a damn good
reason in law for it." He began to reach for me as if to grab my arm and I
quickly stepped back, pulling away from him. "Now you've assaulted me," I
said. "I have lived here in this town for the better part of two decades,"
I said firmly, "and this is the first time in my experience I have been
menaced by a law officer."

"I am NOT 'mentacing' you," he says.

He was so taken aback he went completely silent for a moment, then said,
"OK, move along then." Which I did, almost leaving in a trot. Off he went
in the other direction spinning his wheels and screeching his tires.


The Vice President Cheney's Patriot Act has given this nation's law
enforcement officers a bit more power. :-)

Welcome to the 21st century.

On Sat, 9 Oct 2004 15:27:28 -0400, " jls"
wrote in ::


An aggressive cop stopped me in my quiet neighborhood a few months ago and
demanded ID. I was taking a late night walk in sweat pants to burn off a
few calories. I told him I didn't have any ID and was in my own
neighborhood not bothering anybody and unaccustomed to being accosted by an
officer pulling his cruiser over into my path, blocking me. Then did he
ever become hostile and told me to take my hands out of my pockets. I did
as he said until they became cold and back into my pockets they went. This
time he threatened me with handcuffs and jail, and then he went off the
charts when my hands went back into their pockets. "Take them out!" he
snapped.

"No, I won't," I said, as I turned my pockets inside out to show him there
was nothing in them "and if you arrest me you'd better have a damn good
reason in law for it." He began to reach for me as if to grab my arm and I
quickly stepped back, pulling away from him. "Now you've assaulted me," I
said. "I have lived here in this town for the better part of two decades,"
I said firmly, "and this is the first time in my experience I have been
menaced by a law officer."

"I am NOT 'mentacing' you," he says.

He was so taken aback he went completely silent for a moment, then said,
"OK, move along then." Which I did, almost leaving in a trot. Off he went
in the other direction spinning his wheels and screeching his tires.


The Vice President Cheney's Patriot Act has given this nation's law
enforcement officers a bit more power. :-)

Welcome to the 21st century.

You sure are black and live in South Africa. Arpartheid is still not gone
there. You should immigrate to the US where life is so much better.

I regret very much to say that it's happened to blacks in the U.S.,
too.

vince norris

You sure are black and live in South Africa. Arpartheid is still not gone
there. You should immigrate to the US where life is so much better.

I regret very much to say that it's happened to blacks in the U.S.,
too.

vince norris