Rating to Transport People Voluntarily

Can a Private Pilot transport people for an organization or for "volunteer" purposes.
Examples: Red Cross, transporting people for medical services (cancer patients) etc.?

I've wondered about being able to volunteer services for organizations.

Would they be able to "split costs" at all?
Or is it for transport only?

Thanks!

Gary G wrote:
Can a Private Pilot transport people for an organization or for "volunteer" purposes.
Examples: Red Cross, transporting people for medical services (cancer patients) etc.?

I've wondered about being able to volunteer services for organizations.

Would they be able to "split costs" at all?
Or is it for transport only?

Yes. It's what allows organizations such as AngelFlight to exist.

"Ron Natalie" wrote in message
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Gary G wrote:
Can a Private Pilot transport people for an organization or for
"volunteer" purposes.
Examples: Red Cross, transporting people for medical services (cancer
patients) etc.?

I've wondered about being able to volunteer services for organizations.

Would they be able to "split costs" at all?
Or is it for transport only?

Yes. It's what allows organizations such as AngelFlight to exist.

Be sure if you want to do that you look at the requirements it can be real
prohibitive. Angel Flight requires 300 hours Total time and 75 hours cross
country 25 in make and model or something like that and they charge you an
annual fee to do it. Not sure of other organizations i have only herd of
angel flight. If I was to volunteer my time and aircraft and the expenses
that go along with it no way would I want to pay an annual fee.

"NW_PILOT" wrote in
:

Yes. It's what allows organizations such as AngelFlight to exist.

Be sure if you want to do that you look at the requirements it can be
real prohibitive. Angel Flight requires 300 hours Total time and 75
hours cross country 25 in make and model or something like that and
they charge you an annual fee to do it. Not sure of other
organizations i have only herd of angel flight. If I was to volunteer
my time and aircraft and the expenses that go along with it no way
would I want to pay an annual fee.

That answer is not entirely correct. Angel Flight is made up of six
different regional organization, under the unbrella Angel Flight
America. Although there is a move to standardize everything as much as
possible, each region sets its own specific requirements. Some only
require a Private Pilot license, while others want an instrument rating
and a minimum number of hours (for example, Angel Flight South Central
wants 200 hours PIC, total, and proof of insurance).

It's not as arbitrary or random as it may sound. Each region has
weather that may be unique - for example, Angel Flight North East has
long required an instrument rating, because it is so scuzzy up there so
much of the time. Whereas South Central only recently required one, and
the minimum 200 hours, and that was almost entirely due to insurance
requirements. [Actually, they still don't require an instrument rating
- but if you are VFR only then they want you to schedule an IFR backup
pilot "just in case." And with our weather, 95% of the time, VFR works
just fine.]

Check them out. Go to the web site and find your own region. Find out
what THEY want. And talk with other Angel Flight pilots. It's a great
excuse to fly, and a great feeling to help folks - whether you fly
patients or blood runs or whatever you do to help out.

James Knox
Director
Angel Flight South Central

"James M. Knox" wrote in message
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"NW_PILOT" wrote in
:

Yes. It's what allows organizations such as AngelFlight to exist.

Be sure if you want to do that you look at the requirements it can be
real prohibitive. Angel Flight requires 300 hours Total time and 75
hours cross country 25 in make and model or something like that and
they charge you an annual fee to do it. Not sure of other
organizations i have only herd of angel flight. If I was to volunteer
my time and aircraft and the expenses that go along with it no way
would I want to pay an annual fee.

That answer is not entirely correct. Angel Flight is made up of six
different regional organization, under the unbrella Angel Flight
America. Although there is a move to standardize everything as much as
possible, each region sets its own specific requirements. Some only
require a Private Pilot license, while others want an instrument rating
and a minimum number of hours (for example, Angel Flight South Central
wants 200 hours PIC, total, and proof of insurance).

It's not as arbitrary or random as it may sound. Each region has
weather that may be unique - for example, Angel Flight North East has
long required an instrument rating, because it is so scuzzy up there so
much of the time. Whereas South Central only recently required one, and
the minimum 200 hours, and that was almost entirely due to insurance
requirements. [Actually, they still don't require an instrument rating
- but if you are VFR only then they want you to schedule an IFR backup
pilot "just in case." And with our weather, 95% of the time, VFR works
just fine.]

Check them out. Go to the web site and find your own region. Find out
what THEY want. And talk with other Angel Flight pilots. It's a great
excuse to fly, and a great feeling to help folks - whether you fly
patients or blood runs or whatever you do to help out.

James Knox
Director
Angel Flight South Central


I can understand the Flight time requirements and the insurance requirements
but to pay a mandatory annual fee I do not understand?

As stated on the Angel Flight web site "The cost to join is only $50, and
the annual dues are $35" I can understand charging non pilots a membership
fee but pilots that provide a volunteer service should not be charged. I bet
if they did not charge pilots these fees they would get a lot more pilots
volunteering.

The way I see angel flight is like having to pay a member ship fee to
volunteer in a soup kitchen when your providing the soup. A company with
good intentions.

Remember to be a NPO only 1% of every dollar donated needs to go to the
organization.

"Gary G" wrote in message
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Can a Private Pilot transport people for an organization or for
"volunteer" purposes.
Examples: Red Cross, transporting people for medical services (cancer
patients) etc.?

I've wondered about being able to volunteer services for organizations.

Would they be able to "split costs" at all?
Or is it for transport only?

Relevant FARs:

http://www.risingup.com/fars/info/part61-113-FAR.shtml

This also provides for so-called "charitable airlift" where people make a
donation to, say, go for a ride in a plane, assuming a bunch of conditions
are met. Also allows reimbursement of full (as opposed to proportional)
expenses if involved in SAR activites, which I assume is there to allow CAP
to operate as it does.

-cwk.

C Kingsbury wrote:


This also provides for so-called "charitable airlift" where people make a
donation to, say, go for a ride in a plane, assuming a bunch of conditions
are met. Also allows reimbursement of full (as opposed to proportional)
expenses if involved in SAR activites, which I assume is there to allow CAP
to operate as it does.

Actually, it has nothing to do with either one.

The Charitable Airlift reg is an exemption to allow someone to pay to be flown
(just doesn't flown to the pilot).

I contacted Angelflight shortly after I got my ticket. The web site said
that you could volunteer to be co-pilot w/o IFR rating.

I'm still waiting for a response. It's only been eight years.





"NW_PILOT" wrote in message
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"James M. Knox" wrote in message
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"NW_PILOT" wrote in
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Yes. It's what allows organizations such as AngelFlight to exist.

Be sure if you want to do that you look at the requirements it can be
real prohibitive. Angel Flight requires 300 hours Total time and 75
hours cross country 25 in make and model or something like that and
they charge you an annual fee to do it. Not sure of other
organizations i have only herd of angel flight. If I was to volunteer
my time and aircraft and the expenses that go along with it no way
would I want to pay an annual fee.

That answer is not entirely correct. Angel Flight is made up of six
different regional organization, under the unbrella Angel Flight
America. Although there is a move to standardize everything as much as
possible, each region sets its own specific requirements. Some only
require a Private Pilot license, while others want an instrument rating
and a minimum number of hours (for example, Angel Flight South Central
wants 200 hours PIC, total, and proof of insurance).

It's not as arbitrary or random as it may sound. Each region has
weather that may be unique - for example, Angel Flight North East has
long required an instrument rating, because it is so scuzzy up there so
much of the time. Whereas South Central only recently required one, and
the minimum 200 hours, and that was almost entirely due to insurance
requirements. [Actually, they still don't require an instrument rating
- but if you are VFR only then they want you to schedule an IFR backup
pilot "just in case." And with our weather, 95% of the time, VFR works
just fine.]

Check them out. Go to the web site and find your own region. Find out
what THEY want. And talk with other Angel Flight pilots. It's a great
excuse to fly, and a great feeling to help folks - whether you fly
patients or blood runs or whatever you do to help out.

James Knox
Director
Angel Flight South Central


I can understand the Flight time requirements and the insurance
requirements
but to pay a mandatory annual fee I do not understand?

As stated on the Angel Flight web site "The cost to join is only $50, and
the annual dues are $35" I can understand charging non pilots a membership
fee but pilots that provide a volunteer service should not be charged. I
bet
if they did not charge pilots these fees they would get a lot more pilots
volunteering.

The way I see angel flight is like having to pay a member ship fee to
volunteer in a soup kitchen when your providing the soup. A company with
good intentions.

Remember to be a NPO only 1% of every dollar donated needs to go to the
organization.

"Angel Flight America" is a confederation of 6 individual regional
Angel Flights. The specific requirements to be a pilot vary from region
to region. As for the membership fee...AngelFlight West is $35/year
and essentially funds our very few paid staff. Organizations like this
don't work well entirely volunteer. Someone must always be available
to answer the phone, coordinate with the many (in the hundreds!) of
medical organizations that use our services, deal with state and
federal reporting requirements, etc.

For more info, check out

www.angelflightamerica.org

NW_PILOT wrote:
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I can understand the Flight time requirements and the insurance requirements
but to pay a mandatory annual fee I do not understand?

As stated on the Angel Flight web site "The cost to join is only $50, and
the annual dues are $35" I can understand charging non pilots a membership
fee but pilots that provide a volunteer service should not be charged. I bet
if they did not charge pilots these fees they would get a lot more pilots
volunteering.

Betcha it wouldn't.