Got my BFR ahead of the TSA rule

"Gig Giacona" wrote in message
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"Peter Duniho" wrote in message
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"Gig Giacona" wrote in message
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Take the fight to the terrorist's backyard.... Of wait that's what W
did.

No. He took the fight to the terrorist's neighbor's backyard.

How would you like it if your neighbor was operating a meth lab, and as a
consequence the Drug War cops busted down your door and shot you?


Every country over there with the (probably temporary) exception of Saudi,
Kuwait and Baharan are fair game as far as I'm concerned. And Saudi is
pushing it.

The west has considered Islamic countries and peoples to be "fair game" for
many centuries. That's why so many people there want to strike back against
the west in any way they can.

--Gary

"Gary Drescher" wrote in message
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"Gig Giacona" wrote in message
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"Peter Duniho" wrote in message
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"Gig Giacona" wrote in message
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Take the fight to the terrorist's backyard.... Of wait that's what W
did.

No. He took the fight to the terrorist's neighbor's backyard.

How would you like it if your neighbor was operating a meth lab, and as
a consequence the Drug War cops busted down your door and shot you?


Every country over there with the (probably temporary) exception of
Saudi, Kuwait and Baharan are fair game as far as I'm concerned. And
Saudi is pushing it.

The west has considered Islamic countries and peoples to be "fair game"
for many centuries. That's why so many people there want to strike back
against the west in any way they can.

--Gary


Oh BULL****. I hate the it's all our fault answer to islamic terrorism.

A number of would be terrorists are from the Northern part of my home
state... I wouldn't suggest bombing Razorback Stadium either.

But you do suggest bombing the Arabs wholesale.

And for the
record it is pretty bad form to edit out a sentence just to make you
response cleaner.

I disagree. Editing (without changing the meaning) is a good thing - it means that readers don't have to wade repeatedly through the same text post after post, but those that need it have the context for my response.

For the record, all I edited out was "and Saudi is pushing it.", which doesn't change the meaning (though it softens the original slightly). Saudi is still (according to the post) on the same side of the line as the rest of the Arab countries, the
irony of which I was pointing out.

Jose

"Gig Giacona" wrote in message
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"Gary Drescher" wrote in message
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Every country over there with the (probably temporary) exception of
Saudi, Kuwait and Baharan are fair game as far as I'm concerned. And
Saudi is pushing it.

The west has considered Islamic countries and peoples to be "fair game"
for many centuries. That's why so many people there want to strike back
against the west in any way they can.

Oh BULL****. I hate the it's all our fault answer to islamic terrorism.

Good. Then you'll notice I said nothing of the sort. Terrorism is the fault
of the terrorists, whether it's terror committed by our side or terror
committed by the other side.

Understanding what motivates terror, however, is completely different from
saying who's to blame for terror. And my assessment of that motivation is
accurate, whether you hate to hear it or not.

--Gary

"Gig Giacona" wrote in message
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"Gary Drescher" wrote in message
Every country over there with the (probably temporary) exception of
Saudi, Kuwait and Baharan are fair game as far as I'm concerned. And
Saudi is pushing it.

The west has considered Islamic countries and peoples to be "fair game"
for many centuries. That's why so many people there want to strike back
against the west in any way they can.

Oh BULL****. I hate the it's all our fault answer to islamic terrorism.

Good. Then you'll notice I said nothing of the sort. Terrorism is the fault
of the terrorists, whether it's terror committed by our side or terror
committed by the other side.

Understanding what motivates terror, however, is completely different from
saying who's to blame for terror. And my assessment of that motivation is
accurate, whether you hate to hear it or not.

--Gary

"Gig Giacona" wrote in message
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My certificate says, "Has been found to be properly qualified to exercise
the PRIVILEGES of:"

I signed it. So, I accepted the PRIVILEGES part of it. PRIVILEGES can be
taken away by the grantor.

Not arbitrarily. Legally and morally, revocation of privileges requires a
sound reason. It requires due process.

When they start messing with RIGHTS I'm right there with you.

Legally and morally, there is a right not to have privileges revoked
arbitrarily. For instance, the government cannot lawfully or rightfully
revoke your piltot's license based on your religion or political party.

Besides, regardless of the word printed on the certificate, travel
(including air travel) is a fundamental right. The government is obliged to
respect that right, subject only to regulations that are plausibly needed
for safety and other legitimate public concerns.

What if that same CFI insists on ignoring FAA regulations that go with the
certificate? Do you think the FAA should say, "No problem. Go ahead a SOLO
that 5 year old."

Uh, no. But how is that comparable to what's under discussion? How does the
existence of a regulation that imposes a plausible safety requirement bear
on the reasonableness or legality of a regulation that tries to criminalize
certain instances of the dissemination of basic knowledge?

--Gary

"Gig Giacona" wrote

THe case here is that the GOVERNMENT is controlling someone from using a
GOVERNMENT issued certificate

Like a
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Jim in NCteaching certificate?

to teach someone something that will lead to a GOVERNMENT issued
certificate.

Oh.
Like a Board of Education diploma?

Gig

And the difference was..... what, again?



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"Gig Giacona" wrote

THe case here is that the GOVERNMENT is controlling someone from using a
GOVERNMENT issued certificate

Like a teaching certificate?

to teach someone something that will lead to a GOVERNMENT issued
certificate.

Oh.
Like a Board of Education diploma?

Gig

And the difference was..... what, again?


Crap, put the sig in the wrong place.

Try again.
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Jim in NC


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And don't forget, we need to burn ALL those books!!!


"Gary Drescher" wrote in message
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"Gig Giacona" wrote in message
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But, Gary, what they are requiring is that you prove US citizenship, or
the authorization from the US government if you are not a citizen, to
receive instruction from a person certificated by the that same US
Government to give said instruction. Plus, that particular instruction,
not on could be, but has been used in an attack on the citizens of the
US.

1) The presence or absence of government certification of an instructor
has
no bearing on how dangerous the imparted knowledge is. 2) Instruction in
driving a car, and in basic chemistry, has also been used in a large-scale
terrorist attack on US citizens. 3) If the goal is to prevent future
attacks, we must consider not just the forms of knowledge that have
already
been used against us, but those that might be in the future. So the
rationale for criminalizing unauthorized learning about aviation can be
applied much more generally.

--Gary

In article , David Brooks wrote:
to at least delay implementation. But FAA instructors in New Zealand have 17
hours before they start complying (unless there is some implicit definition
of date using Zulu or Eastern).

Surely the TSA rules only apply inside the United States?

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