Female pilot accident rates

Peter Stickney wrote:

The sex of the pilot makes no difference.

Suuurrrrre it didn't. Six prior crashes and still allowed
to fly the F-14, and the sex made no difference????

Makes about as much sense as your other milksop response.

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"WaltBJ" wrote in message
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FWIW I trained women pilots transitioning to the L1011 while working
at Eastern. Without exception they were meticulous pilots who studied
hard and really learned the airplane. I also knew Betty Skelton - she
was a 'pretty good' woman pilot (understatement for effect).
Walt BJ

And how long was it after they transitioned women to the L-1011 that the
company folded?

"T.Roger" wrote in message
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Anita Hill


I take it you don't get laid alot.

"Gary Drescher" wrote in message
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By analogy, there is a genetic correlation between gender and height. But
knowing this correlation doesn't help us to be on the lookout for what
size
clothing we should buy. You want to buy clothing that fits you, not
clothing that fits the average person of your gender.

Maybe you are right. Although, I would have to add that you cannot change
your height, but if you have judgement or coordination inadequacies, these
might be addressed by further training, knowing that you MAY be more
predisposed to these types of errors. Also, for example, knowing that many
women feel sensitive what may constitute sexual harassment limits, a man may
be taught to better control his innate sexual drives. Arnold found this out
the hard way. No pun intended...

Tien

"Gig Giacona" wrote in message
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"WaltBJ" wrote in message
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FWIW I trained women pilots transitioning to the L1011 while working
at Eastern. Without exception they were meticulous pilots who studied
hard and really learned the airplane. I also knew Betty Skelton - she
was a 'pretty good' woman pilot (understatement for effect).
Walt BJ

And how long was it after they transitioned women to the L-1011 that the
company folded?

Frank Lorenzo wasn't a woman.

"Tien Dao" wrote in message
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"Gary Drescher" wrote in message
news:3zvfd.531832$8_6.258553@attbi_s04...
By analogy, there is a genetic correlation between gender and height. But
knowing this correlation doesn't help us to be on the lookout for what
size
clothing we should buy. You want to buy clothing that fits you, not
clothing that fits the average person of your gender.

Maybe you are right. Although, I would have to add that you cannot change
your height,

Well, you could wear elevator shoes or something, which would be analogous
to training that compensates for innate weaknesses in your judgment or
coordination.

but if you have judgement or coordination inadequacies, these
might be addressed by further training, knowing that you MAY be more
predisposed to these types of errors.

Again, though, your judgment and your coordination are on display throughout
your flight training (as well as in other areas of your life). So even if
there turns out to be a correlation between gender and judgment or
coordination, your gender doesn't tell you anything you and your instructor
didn't already know about whether you need compensatory training--just as
(despite the correlation) your gender doesn't tell you anything you didn't
already know about your height.

I agree with your broader point, though, that we needn't just surrender to
whatever innate dispositions we may have; instead, we can work to change how
those dispositions are expressed. But we should be careful to distinguish an
individual's own predispositions from the average predispositions among some
group that the individual belongs to.

--Gary

NoPoliticsHere wrote:

Anonymity
is more likely to bring honesty, as far as inner opinions. Most people
who post with real names make sure they walk the line they've been told
to walk.

So someone who's lying about who they are is somehow more honest than someone who
doesn't lie? Not hardly. As far as I can tell, people post pretty much what they
think and/or feel -- it's not like there's some sort of police coming to get someone
who posts a PIC opinion. It just seems that many of those with the most extreme
opinions seem to be ashamed of them and don't want anyone to know who they are.

George Patterson
If a man gets into a fight 3,000 miles away from home, he *had* to have
been looking for it.

So someone who's lying about who they are is somehow more honest than someone who
doesn't lie?

Posting anonymously is not lying about who you are. It's just not saying anything about who you are. Different.

it's not like there's some sort of police coming to get someone
who posts a PIC opinion.

Well, that's not exactly true. In some circles there may actually =be= "PC police", with consequences to one's employment, marital status, or other parts of one's life.

It just seems that many of those with the most extreme
opinions seem to be ashamed of them and don't want anyone to know who they are.

Not wanting anyone to know who you are does not imply shame of opinions. Pcople on Usenet come from different surroundings (and from all over the world).

I have no opinion on the underlying issue, but I do have an opinion on correct reasoning.

Jose
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for Email, make the obvious change in the address
(replied to the post in a.a.safety, r.a.piloting, and r.a.safety, but I only follow r.a.p.)

NoPoliticsHere wrote:
That's easy. No special allowances for gender. Female pilots should
be held to the same standards as the guys. If that means two females
in one cockpit, so be it, but make it equitable.

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I am all for that. Same standards, same opportunities. Women can and
do perform well in high-stress environments, generally speaking.

I like to fly, but I daresay I don't have whatever it takes to fly an
F-14 in carrier operations. But then, *statistically*, you don't
either. Very few people do.

But women can do ok, given the chance. Debby Rihn-Harvey, Svetlana
Kapanina, and Patty Wagstaff are examples of this.

Wendy

On 26 Oct 2004 20:16:40 GMT, (OutofRudder) wrote:

Ever notice, in some news reports of incidents or accidents, that when it's a
male pilot, they talk about him simply as "the pilot"; when it's a woman, they
are compelled to say, "the female pilot",

Well, to be fair, that's surely because the woman pilot is still a
rarity. All rarities get mentioned in newspaper stories until it
becomes too politcially incorrect to do so. When I was a young
journalist, it was standard practice to mention the race of a criminal
if he were black. Now of course that is not done.

Indeed, I worked on a newspaper in the process of change. We were
forbidden to mention the race of a defendant in a court martial, so we
vied with each other to come up with the most original physical
description, to see what we could get past the editor.


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