Cellphone via headset ?

I'm using an old AMPS / Digital dual mode band phone - but to be honest, I
don't use it a lot in the air. For me, the advantage of the flightcell was
to boost the mic bias and levels on my Bose headset so that the tower could
hear me a little easier (the Bose tend to be a bit on the quiet side, and I
tend to speak a bit too softly).

For starters the headset one is more than likely a simple
analog input whereas the flightcell is fully microprocessor controlled -
has
built in intercom - satelite input/output - individual gain control on
all
channels - interferance rejection etc.


Which gives you exactly what in added functionality with regard to the
OP's
request, namely using a cell phone in flight?

Not a lot - which is why it's probably an overkill product for what he
wants - which is why I suggested the entry-level alternative
"flightcell2go".

Why would they want to have some one sign a NDA before giving them parts
info???

Um, possibly for the same reason everybody else does - to protect their
commercial interests. Same reason some of the technology is patented.

Sorry folks, I'm not going to be feeding this troll anymore - this is just
getting ridiculous.

Cockpit Colin wrote:
Eg how you can cut air traffic
comms down to 1/2 volume while you're on the phone

Cellset does that. Phone conversation takes precedence over the radio.


- use it as an intercom -

I have an intercom. Perhaps useful for the non owner pilot.


adjust volume levels to compensate for various things within your avionics -
rechargeable batteries - chargers - connectors/adaptors etc

Don't have any level problems, again probably only useful for renters.



I could go back to John and get part numbers etc to prove a point, but to be
honest, I've really got more important things to do with my day

Part numbers mean exactly nothing to me.


- and I have
a feeling that once some peoples minds are made up they're not going to
change them at any cost. All I can say is I thought that way once too -
until I got to know a lot of the behinds the scenes things - at which point
I had to admit that they people that built it weren't idiots and aren't
ripping people off - if folks choose to question my integrity when I say
that, then so be it - I can live with it I don't always agree with John's
marketing techniques - but that's something we continue to have healthy
debates over.

Having used my cellset for about 700 hours now I can't imagine how you
could improve on it except make it smaller.

Cockpit Colin wrote:

I'm using an old AMPS / Digital dual mode band phone - but to be honest, I
don't use it a lot in the air. For me, the advantage of the flightcell was
to boost the mic bias and levels on my Bose headset so that the tower could
hear me a little easier (the Bose tend to be a bit on the quiet side, and I
tend to speak a bit too softly).

You mean for a grand the Bose mic isn't adjustable? Geez, there's a pot
on my Lightspeed and a pot on my Narco com and a panel selectable mic
gain on my Apollo SL40. The last place I need to adjust my mic is my
telephone interface.

Thanks for all that - but sorry, I really don't get your point.

I'm not trying to sell you a flightcell - From the website it looks like
cellset does what you describe for $189.95 and flightcell2go does the same
thing for $199.95 - similar features - so go with whichever spins your prop
on the day.


"Newps" wrote in message
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Cockpit Colin wrote:
Eg how you can cut air traffic
comms down to 1/2 volume while you're on the phone

Cellset does that. Phone conversation takes precedence over the radio.


- use it as an intercom -

I have an intercom. Perhaps useful for the non owner pilot.


adjust volume levels to compensate for various things within your
avionics -
rechargeable batteries - chargers - connectors/adaptors etc

Don't have any level problems, again probably only useful for renters.



I could go back to John and get part numbers etc to prove a point, but
to be
honest, I've really got more important things to do with my day

Part numbers mean exactly nothing to me.


- and I have
a feeling that once some peoples minds are made up they're not going to
change them at any cost. All I can say is I thought that way once too -
until I got to know a lot of the behinds the scenes things - at which
point
I had to admit that they people that built it weren't idiots and aren't
ripping people off - if folks choose to question my integrity when I say
that, then so be it - I can live with it I don't always agree with
John's
marketing techniques - but that's something we continue to have healthy
debates over.

Having used my cellset for about 700 hours now I can't imagine how you
could improve on it except make it smaller.

Cockpit,

For me, the advantage of the flightcell was
to boost the mic bias and levels on my Bose headset so that the tower could
hear me a little easier (the Bose tend to be a bit on the quiet side, and I
tend to speak a bit too softly).


Nothing a decent intercom wouldn't do. And those 100 $ for the Bose seem to
have been too much, as well...

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

Thomas,

And those 100 $ for the Bose seem to
have been too much, as well...


1000, of course

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

Isn't it against FCC regulations to use a Cell phone in the air?

John
student pilot




Newps wrote in message ...
I have Verizon. Originally it was Commnet, that turned into Airtouch
which then turned into Verizon. I never fail to get a signal if I am at
1000 AGL, unles I am deep in the mountains. I may have to get to the
ridge tops then. I have been in the middle of north central South
Dakota and the phone has rung and it worked great, other person couldn't
tell I was in the air. Right now I use a Kyocera 7135. Replaced the LG
4400 which overall worked great. Before that I had the Motorola T720,
that was probably the worst phone I've ever had, although having nothing
to do with its in flight qualities. I have found Motorola phones to
have the worst receivers. My wife has a Kyocera 414 after just
replacing the Kyocera 3135. All work great in the plane and in fringe
areas on the ground.

John Clonts wrote:
"Newps" wrote in message
...


Cockpit Colin wrote:


If it costs them that much then they don't know what they're doing.
There are two companies making these that I'm aware of that don't come
close to this cost and several headset manufacturers that add them to
their headsets.


That was my (uninformed) opinion too - unfortunately I had to eat humble

pie

when I started asking the designers some "pointed" questions. For

starters,

as I said in a previous post, you have to compare apples with apples.

Show

me the microprocessor in the headset interface - show me the intercom -

show

me the seperate satelite phone connection - show me the individual

controls

over input / output levels for all of the above. Show me how some of the
competing products raise the mic bias level to actually make an

incompatible

headset compatible (and is fine tuned even more by adjustment of the mic
volume).

That's called overkill. I have no idea what's in my cellset. Don't
care. The cellphone volume is the same as the radio volume, you don't
realize how important that is until you use a unit that doesn't do that.
Unit works flawlessly, it rings in my headset and people on the other
end cannot tell I'm in the plane. If I didn't tell them that I was
flying they would never know it. I built a little L shaped stand that
is velcroed to my windshield so the phone antenna is always looking
outside, always get a signal and makes it easy to dial while in flight.



What cellphone and service are you using, and what sort of success have you
had in doing that (altitudes, coverage)?

Thanks,
John Clonts
Temple, Texas
N7NZ

wrote in message
om...
Isn't it against FCC regulations to use a Cell phone in the air?

hoo boy...here we go again...