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Old August 17th 04, 09:15 PM
Cy Galley
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Most twins have a minimum single engine speed. The CriCri is no exception.
If your engine quits on take-off before that speed you have very few
options. Red took the option of putting it back on the ground.
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"Cy Galley" wrote in message
I know the pilot of that accident and he purposely put it on the ground

in
front of the crowd rather than stagger around and possibly get over the
crowd and hit someone. He has ALL the ratings and is ex-military, a very
capable pilot.


Is the design uncontrollable on one engine? Why did he prang it?

D.




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Old August 18th 04, 02:10 PM
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Philippe wrote:

Jay wrote:

I'm really impressed with this design. It carries a payload equal to
its own weight. How many aircraft can do that?


I know the D140 named Abeille (bee) or Mousquetaire
it's a big D112 with O360
550kg empty 1210lbs
1100kg full 2420lbs
another french desing (Delemontez)

Better, you have from Michel Colomban too, the MC100, all aluminium alloy
empty: 202 kg 445lbs
full: 450kg 990lbs
The carbon version is 240kg empty


,,,,,,,,,,,,,,or almost any quicksilver type with a single surface wing,

I've seen them carry almost twice the empty weight,,,,,,,,,

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Old August 18th 04, 03:20 PM
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This is probably a really dumb question, but I am curious.

Does piloting the Cri-Cri require a multi-engine rating?

Rob
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Old August 18th 04, 07:32 PM
Cy Galley
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I believe that any private pilot or better can fly a twin solo. But it could
be just an OWT


"Rob Schneider" wrote in message
m...
This is probably a really dumb question, but I am curious.

Does piloting the Cri-Cri require a multi-engine rating?

Rob



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Old August 18th 04, 08:37 PM
Jay
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Someone said earlier in this thread that a single engine rated pilot
can fly a multiengine experimental. I'd also like to know if that is
true.

As far as Vmc for the Cri-Cri, the longer the moment arm from the CG
to that dead engine the worse a problem it is. With those 2 engines
close turning 30" propellers out front, it wouldn't be too bad as
compared to your typical light twin with engines in nacells on the
wings.



(Rob Schneider) wrote in message om...
This is probably a really dumb question, but I am curious.

Does piloting the Cri-Cri require a multi-engine rating?

Rob

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Old August 18th 04, 09:11 PM
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This is probably a really dumb question, but I am curious.

Does piloting the Cri-Cri require a multi-engine rating?

Rob

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Not dumb at all, Rob.

Unless the aircraft operating limitations state othertwise...

NO

Ditto for EXPERIMENTALl seaplanes, helicopters, etcetera.

Caveat:
Legal is one thing...
Competency and good sense is quite another.



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Old August 19th 04, 11:14 AM
Vassilii Khachaturov
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just see this one:
http://www.argo.co.id/asac/cricri.htm


Thanks! I actually had mentioned the jet conversion in the original
wikipedia article, but I was incorrect with the speed there (folks
@OSH said it was doubled,
not up 1.5 times from the prop-driven version). Also, thanks to your
link I was now able to mention the pilot name and the registration of
the jet-converted Cri-cri.
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Old August 27th 04, 08:45 PM
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Thats a great example of the trade off of payload vs. speed. What
about any aircraft with a 100kt+ cruise that meet the 2-1 gross-empty
ratio?

Mark Smith wrote in message ...

,,,,,,,,,,,,,,or almost any quicksilver type with a single surface wing,

I've seen them carry almost twice the empty weight,,,,,,,,,

 




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