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#31
February 21st 04, 06:22 AM
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Liam Finley wrote:
(Liam Finley) wrote in message . com... (Mark James Boyd) wrote in message news:4035b4c5$1@darkstar... LOL. I bet you live somewhere a bit flat? Good for you... Not exactly. As much as I'd like to support yours and Greenwell's illusions, my 4-cylinder trailering experience includes trips of up to 1500 miles covering mountainous terrain in the eastern Sierras and Nevada Great Basin. The lengths people will go to to rationalize the purchase of these expensive underperforming little gliders! Hehehe. Darn, you got my number. Can't get anything past these ras guys :P Yep, it's been a long winter...two more weeks to freedom for me though! And I've heard rumors of thermals... 
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#32
February 21st 04, 06:24 AM
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Tom Seim wrote: (Liam Finley) wrote in message . com... (Liam Finley) wrote in message . com... (Mark James Boyd) wrote in message news:4035b4c5$1@darkstar... LOL. I bet you live somewhere a bit flat? Good for you... Not exactly. As much as I'd like to support yours and Greenwell's illusions, my 4-cylinder trailering experience includes trips of up to 1500 miles covering mountainous terrain in the eastern Sierras and Nevada Great Basin. Try reading your owner's manual, especially the part about towing weight limits. "Never tow anything with your Mazda." Hmmm...I guess when I sell it I'm gonna say it was just for a mountain bike rack :P
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#33
February 21st 04, 08:27 AM
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Tom Seim wrote:
(Liam Finley) wrote in message . com... As much as I'd like to support yours and Greenwell's illusions, my 4-cylinder trailering experience includes trips of up to 1500 miles covering mountainous terrain in the eastern Sierras and Nevada Great Basin. Try reading your owner's manual, especially the part about towing weight limits. There are quite a few 4 cylinder vehicles available in the US with specified towing capacities in the 1500 to 3000 lb range. VW Golf and Jetta, Subaru Outback and Forester, Volvo V40, Saab 9-3, Toyota Tacoma... Marc
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#34
February 21st 04, 10:10 AM
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Marc Ramsey skrev den Sat, 21 Feb 2004 08:27:59
GMT: There are quite a few 4 cylinder vehicles available in the US with specified towing capacities in the 1500 to 3000 lb range. VW Golf and Jetta, Subaru Outback and Forester, Volvo V40, Saab 9-3, Toyota Tacoma... Towed a Discus with my -87 Golf II, 70 hp. It was very doable, doing 90 km/h on the freeway with no problems. When I encountered some steep hills, it was a different story though (we're talking steep here, normal road gradients posed no trouble). Felt like I was driving a heavy truck instead, having to downshift into second and pull onto the shoulder climbing. Not something you're used to in your car! Under 30 km/h, attention shifted to the engine temperature gauge rather than the speedo as the thermostat was wide open by then, trying to find the balance between speed (radiator airflow) and engine strain. Not something I cared much to repeat. It is legal and doable, but make sure there aren't any unusually long and/or steep climbs along the way. And if I _owned_ a glider, I would get a bigger car to go along with it. Er, actually, I did that anyway. Too much rust!  Cheers, Fred
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#35
February 21st 04, 05:06 PM
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Marc Ramsey wrote:
Tom Seim wrote: (Liam Finley) wrote in message . com... As much as I'd like to support yours and Greenwell's illusions, my 4-cylinder trailering experience includes trips of up to 1500 miles covering mountainous terrain in the eastern Sierras and Nevada Great Basin. Try reading your owner's manual, especially the part about towing weight limits. There are quite a few 4 cylinder vehicles available in the US with specified towing capacities in the 1500 to 3000 lb range. VW Golf and Jetta, Subaru Outback and Forester, Volvo V40, Saab 9-3, Toyota Tacoma... Toyota Camry (2000 pound limit). -- ----- change "netto" to "net" to email me directly Eric Greenwell Washington State USA
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#36
February 21st 04, 05:14 PM
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Liam Finley wrote:
better grade. Sure sure, on the flat roads and beaches of Santa Cruz I'd tow a catamaran, but a heavy trailer of ski gear up to Tahoe with four people seemed to like a nice big engine... The lengths people will go to to rationalize the purchase of these expensive underperforming little gliders! Glider purchases can be rational? I'm reminded of Ed Kilbourne's song that goes something like "Honey, I need a new glider, the one we have now just won't do, they've come out with the new LS22. I knew you'd agree, so I ordered one today,...." -- ----- change "netto" to "net" to email me directly Eric Greenwell Washington State USA
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#37
February 21st 04, 05:53 PM
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Eric Greenwell wrote:
Liam Finley wrote: better grade. Sure sure, on the flat roads and beaches of Santa Cruz I'd tow a catamaran, but a heavy trailer of ski gear up to Tahoe with four people seemed to like a nice big engine... The lengths people will go to to rationalize the purchase of these expensive underperforming little gliders! Glider purchases can be rational? I think they are as rational as purchases of expensive SUV's for driving around town. Plus they hold their value better, and require less maintenance. And certainly more fun. Not as good at impressing the neighbors, though.
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#38
February 21st 04, 06:36 PM
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Greg Arnold wrote:
Glider purchases can be rational? I think they are as rational as purchases of expensive SUV's for driving around town. Plus they hold their value better, and require less maintenance. And certainly more fun. Not as good at impressing the neighbors, though. Bingo! A pet peeve of mine. Though, as a motorglider owner who bought the last time the dollar was weakish, I've probably lost an SUV in value over the last 9 years, and it certainly has taken more maintenance. But surely, a LOT more fun! And my wife goes along with the claim I bought it because I love her, 'cause when I get hit by a bus and expire, she can sell the glider and live extravagantly with the pool guy (and idea she got from Pez), something she couldn't do if I bought a cheap glider, whose sale would leave her destitute (I said she goes along with it, I didn't say she believes it). -- ----- change "netto" to "net" to email me directly Eric Greenwell Washington State USA
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#39
February 22nd 04, 08:34 PM
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Plus they hold their value better, and require less
maintenance. And certainly more fun. Not as good at impressing the neighbors, though Try rigging it on your front lawn one day! sure as hell impressed my neighbours even if it did block half the road
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#40
February 23rd 04, 07:24 AM
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