Any news from IGC?

Tony Verhulst wrote in message ...
So, how do you avoid a final glide to an airport that's closed for, say,
repaving? I've been surprised three times that way: two of the times
checking with Duats (or equivalent) would've avoided the problem;

Non U.S readers may skip the following

Not just NOTAMs but TFRs (Temproary Flight Restictions). With the
election campaign heating up, the prez is on the road more - and with it
come TFRs, sometimes with little notice:

Mar. 10: Cleveland, Ohio
Anticipated - Mar. 11: East Meadow, New York
Anticipated - Mar. 12-14: Thurmont, Maryland
Anticipated - Mar. 12: Cincinnati, Ohio
Anticipated - Mar. 12: Jackson, Wyoming

Bust one and you'll have a real good look at an F16 - followed by a chat
with the Secret Service.

To respond to a Bill Daniels post about some "high time pilots" not
being proficient, I can only agree and add that because a man eats all
his life, doesn't make him a gourmet.

Tony V


That is the advantage of flying in AZ, we usually don't go anywhere
near the airports that the Prez will visit. When he is in the area,
the word gets out and TFR locations are checked, of course.

Good point about checking for airfield status - haven't had that
problem out here, though. Paved airports are far apart, lots of dirt
strips

Might be a nice addition to our club website - a "local airport
status" listing.

But does anyone file flight plans out there? I've never seen an NTSB
glider accident report that said the glider was on a flight plan - not
that that means much (small sample size).

Kirk

tango4 wrote:
Not sure if this is pertinent but free distance tasks are not acceptable for
badge flights

Yes they are ! Either free distance in straight line or free distance
with up to 3 (predeclared) turn points

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Denis

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Tim Newport-Peace wrote:

For badges a maximum of 3 waypoints may be claimed and each Waypoint may
only be claimed once. (SC3, 1.4.5(b).

Yes

The sequence must be on the declaration.

No ! The course must be declared, but
"The TURN POINTS( ...) may be claimed once, *in any sequence* "
(SC3, 1.4.5(b) also)



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Denis

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PapaIndia wrote:

Did anything happen at the Lausanne meeting?

http://www.fai.org/gliding/meetings/...nsfrom2004.pdf

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Denis

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Denis wrote:
tango4 wrote:
Not sure if this is pertinent but free distance tasks are not acceptable for
badge flights

Yes they are ! Either free distance in straight line or free distance
with up to 3 (predeclared) turn points

I have to point out a confusion that I had as well about
definitions.

A "free 3TP" task means the 3 turnpoints are declared
before the flight, but the order of the turnpoints, and
whether 1,2,or all 3 turnpoints are claimed
is declared after the flight. I haven't seen this clearly explained
anywhere but on some of the declaration forms themselves.

This is different from what I would conceptually
consider "free," which is when three turnpoins would
be chosen after the flight from the three points on the gps trace
which are furthest apart.

Anyone with more comment on this please correct me if
this is mistaken...I've only flown one free 3TP record,
and the "free 3TP" task and form were what I used.


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Mark Boyd
Avenal, California, USA

Tim Newport-Peace wrote:

It is however important to remember that the 'observation' zones for
Competitions and Badges are slightly different, and if you intend to
claim a badge you need to go a bit further into the zone.

At least until 1st Oct 2004, where beer can will be included in the OZ
even for badges or records


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Denis

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Janos Bauer wrote:

Theoretically you don't have to go further than 125km from your home on
a 500km task.

it's actually 83.333 km only !


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Denis

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X-no-archive: yes
In article , Denis moncourrielest
writes
Tim Newport-Peace wrote:

For badges a maximum of 3 waypoints may be claimed and each Waypoint may
only be claimed once. (SC3, 1.4.5(b).

Yes

The sequence must be on the declaration.

No ! The course must be declared, but
"The TURN POINTS( ...) may be claimed once, *in any sequence* "
(SC3, 1.4.5(b) also)



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Denis


Hi Denis,

But what about:

4.2.1 Declaration content
--------snip
e. Way points and the sequence to be flown, start, turn(s), finish/goal
as applicable to the specific soaring performance *

Tim Newport-Peace

"Indecision is the Key to Flexibility."

In article ,
Denis wrote:
Janos Bauer wrote:

Theoretically you don't have to go further than 125km from your home on
a 500km task.

it's actually 83.333 km only !

Hmmm...if S is start, F is finish, points are 1, 2, 3, and A
is the airport:

S 1

2 A 3

F

Then S-1 = 1-2 = 2-3 = 3-F = 125km
Since half of that is the max distance to the airport, 62.5 km
is max distance (about 33NM).

For gold distance of 300km, this is 37.5km (20NM).

Astonishingly,
for silver distance, one can fly a 3TP course without ever going
more than 6.25km (3.3 NM) from the airport! Get towed out to
near the start, and just fly back and forth over the airport
four times!

I'm not saying it's easier than just grabbing a thermal to
6000ft and then doing a 50km downwind dash ), but it sounds
pretty darned easy...geez, at 3.3 NM from the airport,
1000ft AGL is final glide even for a 2-33 :O

Of course assume half glide, and add pattern, blah blah,
but even that's just 3000 ft. Not exactly a challenge...



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Mark Boyd
Avenal, California, USA

In article ,
Denis wrote:
Tim Newport-Peace wrote:

It is however important to remember that the 'observation' zones for
Competitions and Badges are slightly different, and if you intend to
claim a badge you need to go a bit further into the zone.

At least until 1st Oct 2004, where beer can will be included in the OZ
even for badges or records

I assume that like competitions, distance will be calculated by
the furthest point into the beer can...right?

Do you have a reference for this? How big is the beer can?

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Mark Boyd
Avenal, California, USA