Lawyers Flying Gliders

An Austrian ex-minister of justice used to fly gliders.

-Gerhard

This is a bit wierd, but a friend and I can think of no lawyers who
fly gliders. We can think of plenty of doctors and gobs of engineers,
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At 14:00 05 October 2004, Colin Lamb wrote:

Wrong! Clearly, you do not have the mind of a lawyer.
You can sue your
instructor, who failed to teach properly. You can
sue the owner of the
field, who failed to mark, designate or level. You
can sue the aircraft
manufacturer, who failed to build so that a fool (or
lawyer) could operate
it. You can sue the FAA, who mistakenly gave you a
license. You can sue
the controller, who authorized you to damage your aircraft.
And, what about
the hapless individual who sold you this intrument
of destruction and failed
to warn you that it might crash if improperly piloted?
Then there is the
author of the glider book you read and relied upon,
who neglected to warn
about the dangers of uneven grass runways. And the
publisher who allowed
the book you read to be published. Then, the local
weather bureau, which
did not mention that for every up draft, there is a
down draft.

So, this may be the answer to the original question.
Lawyers are so busy
filing lawsuits they do not have enough time to fly.

Colin N12HS

Argued like a great trial lawyer. With so many opportunities
to sue you'd think lawyers would be flocking to soaring
-- and encouraging their clients to join too.

;-)

9B

If a lawyer suffers a gliding mishap, all (s)he can
do is sue him/herself.

Andy, can you guarantie that they will not sue the aircraft owner,
manufacturer or the annual inspector??? How about the owner of the
airport or the field where they had the mishap???

"Matt Herron" wrote in message
om...
This is a bit wierd, but a friend and I can think of no lawyers who
fly gliders. We can think of plenty of doctors and gobs of engineers,
but no members of that darker profession. Is it just us, or is there
something about soaring that excludes lawyers? Aversion to risk??

IIRC, Dean Carswell is an attorney of some sort. Heard of him?

Beating up on lawyers is like blaming the mirror for what you see in
it. Good lawyers simply add value to our baser instincts... like
blaming everyone but ourselves. Bad lawyers, on the other hand,
encourage those instincts without adding much value.

As for why we don't see many of them at the gliderport... most
successful lawyers I know work very long, not alway predictable hours.
A sport that's 75% "waiting" isn't likely to attract that sort of
personality.

In message , Matt
Herron writes
This is a bit wierd, but a friend and I can think of no lawyers who
fly gliders. We can think of plenty of doctors and gobs of engineers,
but no members of that darker profession. Is it just us, or is there
something about soaring that excludes lawyers? Aversion to risk??
I know of two in our club alone.

Robin
--
Robin Birch

Lawyers/gliderpilots. There are some.

Lawyers may keep their professional proclivity low
profile
around gliderclubs,
because glider clubs and pilots ask for
free legal services
(known as advice and opinions and writings, etc)
such as incorporation, faa citation, airport access,
and liability advice, etc. for the good cause...whatever
that may be
at the behest
of the gliderclub
at the time;
the club officers rarely if ever making appointment
for office time
and paid advice,
conjecture I.

Consider, how many plumbers and pipefitters and homebuilders
and car mechanics and glider repairmen can you call
to come do their lifework for free?

Why should lawyers
be free
to gliderclubs?

No reason.

I bet if one would take time to check the list of
Flying Lawyers in USA and those in Aviation law one
could find some holding glider ratings.

Luke Closson, Esq. Claims Attorney, Workers Comp and
genl law practice. Closson, Bass and Tomberlin, Valdosta
Ga. Owns 1-26, 2-33, and a couple Slingsby twoseaters,
and towplane.

Hal Lattimore, Atty. District Court Judge
of The Republic of Texas.
Contest head-knocker and good guy.
National Soaring Museum Trustee, etc et al.

Tom Moran, Esq. Atlanta Georgia.
glider pilot, ultralight pilot.
In practice near state capitol and State Courts.

I know of another who did legal work for US motorglider
association to accomplish tax exempt status.

Lawyers are out there, who fly, and who fly gliders.

Check aviation law attorneys oe other attorneys in
your area, then check their
ratings online. Surely, you may find some glider
rated pilots.

Dancing on clouds,

Keep it up!

Jim Culp

Jim Culp wrote in message ...

Consider, how many plumbers and pipefitters and homebuilders
and car mechanics and glider repairmen can you call
to come do their lifework for free?

Why should lawyers
be free
to gliderclubs?

No reason.

The clubs I've been involved with worked BECAUSE of the plumbers,
homebuilders, car and glider repairmen and, yes, lawyers that
unselfishly worked donating their respective talents to the good of
their community. I certainly hope that Jim Culp will find a group of
people that shows him how very wrong his position is.
Herbert, J7

Herbert Kilian wrote:
Jim Culp wrote in message ...

Consider, how many plumbers and pipefitters and homebuilders
and car mechanics and glider repairmen can you call
to come do their lifework for free?

Why should lawyers
be free
to gliderclubs?

No reason.


The clubs I've been involved with worked BECAUSE of the plumbers,
homebuilders, car and glider repairmen and, yes, lawyers that
unselfishly worked donating their respective talents to the good of
their community. I certainly hope that Jim Culp will find a group of
people that shows him how very wrong his position is.
Herbert, J7
Like most professionals the soaring pilots of the IT industry get asked to do
things for free. When it comes to running the clubs website, creating it, and
donating the server and bandwidth - I'm only too happy to assist. When it comes
to helping one of the folk in the club who are IT challenged, I am a little more
discerning. How likely I am to help a SECOND time depends on the others
attitude. The instructor who bust his backside to be at the club every weekend
to teach my hamfistedness out of me - he can have my time whenever he wants it.
The artizan who has never switched a PC on, can rely on me to print things he
needs - because he arives every weekend with his tools, just in case.

Some of the prima-donnas might wonder how I am always so busy though ;-)

Gerhard Wesp wrote:

An Austrian ex-minister of justice used to fly gliders.


One of our ex prime minister, Michel Rocard, was flying gliders
in the club were I am now flying. This was before I was there
and I only know that from other members, the story says that there
was an helicopter from the Army flying near him for his proection.
I donn't know if he is still flying, at least not in my club.