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Old March 8th 05, 06:45 PM
John T
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lowflyer wrote:
According to the latest issue of PC WORLD, Spybot and Ad-Aware are
only 54% and 65% efficient respectively at eliminating adware and
spyware.


For those who don't subscribe, what package was most effective?

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Old March 8th 05, 07:08 PM
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lowflyer wrote:
According to the latest issue of PC WORLD, Spybot and Ad-Aware are only 54%
and 65% efficient respectively at eliminating adware and spyware.


Percent of what? What does this mean?
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Old March 8th 05, 07:35 PM
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"lowflyer" wrote in message
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For those who don't subscribe, what package was most effective?


The most effective was Sunbelt Software CounterSpy 1.0 with 85%
effectiveness, but it costs 20 bucks.


Did the article happen to mention that the MOST effective anti-spyware
strategy is to not run your computer in a configuration that allows software
to be installed in the first place?

It's great protection against viruses too.

If not, I wouldn't be surprised to find that the PC World article was
designed simply to generate interest in the market for anti-spyware
software. After all, what other reason would they have for failing to point
out that the most effective anti-spyware tool is simply configuring your
operating system correctly? No need to install ANY additional software.

Pete


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Old March 8th 05, 07:37 PM
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The most effective was Sunbelt Software CounterSpy 1.0 with 85%
effectiveness, but it costs 20 bucks. Also, they mentioned a new Microsoft
product, Windows Antispyware, that impressewd them, but it wasn't directly
compared to the other programs because it was apparently just released.

"John T" wrote in message
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lowflyer wrote:
According to the latest issue of PC WORLD, Spybot and Ad-Aware are
only 54% and 65% efficient respectively at eliminating adware and
spyware.


For those who don't subscribe, what package was most effective?

--
John T
http://tknowlogy.com/TknoFlyer
http://www.pocketgear.com/products_s...veloperid=4415
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Old March 8th 05, 07:37 PM
Roger
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On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 14:08:04 -0500, "William W. Plummer"
wrote:

lowflyer wrote:
According to the latest issue of PC WORLD, Spybot and Ad-Aware are only 54%
and 65% efficient respectively at eliminating adware and spyware.


Percent of what? What does this mean?


It means they only find about that % of spyware what with all the new
stuff showing up on a regular basis.

It MS program also seems to work well and is free..

Basically, load, install, and run 'em all.

BTW, if you newsreader opens links it can pick up cookies from them
..depending on where they go.

Good luck

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
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Old March 8th 05, 07:39 PM
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To quote them: "Denotes each application's overall success rate in
eliminating our 81 test examples of adware and spyware infections."

"William W. Plummer" wrote in message
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lowflyer wrote:
According to the latest issue of PC WORLD, Spybot and Ad-Aware are only

54%
and 65% efficient respectively at eliminating adware and spyware.


Percent of what? What does this mean?



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Old March 8th 05, 07:47 PM
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For info on the Microsoft product, go to www.microsoft.com/downloads. Look
under "Windows AntiSpyware." PC WORLD says it's 91% efficient.


"lowflyer" wrote in message
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The most effective was Sunbelt Software CounterSpy 1.0 with 85%
effectiveness, but it costs 20 bucks. Also, they mentioned a new Microsoft
product, Windows Antispyware, that impressewd them, but it wasn't directly
compared to the other programs because it was apparently just released.

"John T" wrote in message
...
lowflyer wrote:
According to the latest issue of PC WORLD, Spybot and Ad-Aware are
only 54% and 65% efficient respectively at eliminating adware and
spyware.


For those who don't subscribe, what package was most effective?

--
John T
http://tknowlogy.com/TknoFlyer
http://www.pocketgear.com/products_s...veloperid=4415
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Old March 8th 05, 08:31 PM
lowflyer
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The article does not discuss configuring one's computer to avoid spyware.
They do imply it's not always possible to avoid it. I don't know what their
motives are. How does one configure his computer to avoid spyware?

"Peter Duniho" wrote in message
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"lowflyer" wrote in message
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For those who don't subscribe, what package was most effective?


The most effective was Sunbelt Software CounterSpy 1.0 with 85%
effectiveness, but it costs 20 bucks.


Did the article happen to mention that the MOST effective anti-spyware
strategy is to not run your computer in a configuration that allows

software
to be installed in the first place?

It's great protection against viruses too.

If not, I wouldn't be surprised to find that the PC World article was
designed simply to generate interest in the market for anti-spyware
software. After all, what other reason would they have for failing to

point
out that the most effective anti-spyware tool is simply configuring your
operating system correctly? No need to install ANY additional software.

Pete




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Old March 8th 05, 09:32 PM
John T
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Peter Duniho wrote:

People are getting infected through
normal user activities (mostly going to web sites that propogate the
spyware, either surreptitiously or through by fooling the user into
installing something they shouldn't have).


Ditto that. System configuration is a good way to prevent infection, but a
little forethought of action would go a long way to preventing infection,
too.

"But the web site said I needed to install something called 'GAIN'..."

Doh!

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Old March 9th 05, 12:10 AM
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Your answer points out why a lot of us still need anti-spyware. I for one
wouldn't have the confidence to do whatever you are describing. I am not
doubting you; I just don't have the know-how to agree, disagree, or follow
your directions. But I am able to download anti-spyware :-)

"Peter Duniho" wrote in message
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"lowflyer" wrote in message
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Basically, use the security built into the OS. Use the NTFS file system
(because it provides for file-level security), and log into the operating
system as a restricted user account.

It is true that because software authors (especially those specializing in
Windows software) are still unaccustomed to dealing with not having carte
blanche over the computer, occasionally some special handling is required.
This includes setting access privileges for the registry or the program's
install directory to lower than is normally wise, or (for especially

poorly
written software) using the "Run As..." feature to run *that program only*
with administrator privileges.



 




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