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"lowflyer" wrote in message
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Your answer points out why a lot of us still need anti-spyware. I for one
wouldn't have the confidence to do whatever you are describing. I am not
doubting you; I just don't have the know-how to agree, disagree, or follow
your directions. But I am able to download anti-spyware :-)

Well, the "special handling" I mentioned is really just one-time stuff. If
you don't have the expertise to do them, then you likely have someone in
your life (either friendly or paid) who takes care of system administration
stuff like that. The solution would be to just have them do the "special
handling" for you, in the instances it shows up.

Nevertheless, my main question was with respect to what PC World wrote
about. Regardless of what's practical, locking down the system is a nearly
100% solution for preventing spyway from being installed in the first place,
and is much more effective than even the best anti-spyware software out
there. PC World should have at least mentioned that, even if they do agree
with you that using the built-in security features is impractical.

Pete

"George Patterson" wrote in message
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Matt Barrow wrote:

And use Spyware Blaster to keep them off your system between Spybot
scans.

If that keeps the system clean, would there be any need to use Spybot?


Cross check and verification.

In the two or three years since we've loaded it on all our networked systems
we have not had a single piece of spyware get in. IOW, Spybot has been 100%
redundant. I now do a Spybot check only about every three or four months.

Interestingly, the one site that has attempted to load spyware, which was
blocked before it could load (I turned on the annuciator just to see if it
was really working), was WSJ's Opinion Journal which attempted to load
"Avenue-A".


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Matt
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Matthew W. Barrow
Site-Fill Homes, LLC.
Montrose, CO

I must confess that I haven't tested the 2nd for a while - I used to type it
in by mistake and it used to take me to a site for Ada Ware - looks like
it's been changed. Snap files is one of the OK distributors of it, so no
worries their either. And of course, nothing wrong with the Lavasoft site
either!


"Jose" wrote in message
. com...
(note: it's www.ad-aware.com - not www.adaware.com)

Actually the company that makes it is lavasoft. The second link sends
me to lavasoft.com, the first one sends me to snapfiles.com. I got mine
from lavasoftusa.com, referred by a link in PCWorld.

Jose
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Math is a game. The object of the game is to figure out the rules.
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

Best way to stop getting spywa Stop using Internet Explorer.

Here's the last thing you should ever do with IE: go to www.opera.com and
download a much better browser.

Then don't ever start IE again, expect perhaps for Windows Update. It's a
garbage browser anyway...

Brian
www.warbard.ca/avgas/

"Brian Burger" wrote in message
a.tc.ca...
Best way to stop getting spywa Stop using Internet Explorer.

Anyone who blames IE for spyware is an idiot.

The VERY best way to stop getting spyware is to turn off your computer and
never turn it back on. That doesn't mean it's your computer's fault that
you get spyware.

Pete

On Thu, 10 Mar 2005, Peter Duniho wrote:

"Brian Burger" wrote in message
a.tc.ca...
Best way to stop getting spywa Stop using Internet Explorer.

Anyone who blames IE for spyware is an idiot.

Anyone who still runs IE is an idiot.

Would "Best way to lessen your chances of getting spyware" get a more
polite response from you?

Seriously, running Opera I've (deliberately, at times) visited sites that
IE-users claim flood their computer with spyware, and gotten no infections
at all. None.

I've got SpyBot & AdAware, run them every month or so (or after
experimenting with 'sypware infested' websites) and I think I've had
them kill ONE 'bot in the last year. That one likely arrived on some
shareware I installed, and I don't think it was able to communicate
outward - ZoneAlarm never noticed it, anyway.

Opera, ZoneAlarm, SpyBot, AdAware - I run a fairly secure PC, but Opera is
the first line of defence, and it seems to work very well.

IE is a waste of HD space.

Brian
www.warbard.ca/avgas/

Brian Burger wrote:
Best way to stop getting spywa Stop using Internet Explorer.

Here's the last thing you should ever do with IE: go to www.opera.com and
download a much better browser.


or Firefox http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/ or just about
anything except IE.

After going through the usual cycle of updating all the virus, adware,
spyware and malware protection and eradication programs and databases
about two years ago, I switched to Mac OS X for laptop and FreeBSD for
servers. Also, all open source applications (Firefox, Thunderbird,
etc.) and I disable HTML in email & newsgroup message display and run
ipfw (firewall) on all the machines.

For the two years since the switch the result has been 100% uptime and
zero virus and spyware problems. I keep a packet sniffer monitoring all
inbound and outbound TCP and UDP flows; nothing in or out that is not
supposed to be, period.

I feel for those in corporate environments that require MS. It sure
creates a lot of extra work and frustration.

"Brian Burger" wrote in message
ia.tc.ca...
[...]
Seriously, running Opera I've (deliberately, at times) visited sites that
IE-users claim flood their computer with spyware, and gotten no infections
at all. None.

Maybe only users who are idiots need to run Opera.

I use IE exclusively, and have never had any spyware, virus, etc.

I guess Opera is probably the right browser for you.

Peter Duniho wrote:

Anyone who blames IE for spyware is an idiot.

Ever run an install of Spybot Search & Destroy or Adaware on a new install?

The VERY best way to stop getting spyware is to turn off your computer and
never turn it back on. That doesn't mean it's your computer's fault that
you get spyware.

Not if its in there to begin with, its already too late...