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Old March 21st 05, 12:31 PM
Cecil Chapman
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?? Boy scouts can fly, but Girl scouts can't?? Are boys 'more expendable'
than girls? jeesh

I'm with you and your wife on this one,,, what nonsense and a major
disservice to the girls. We gotta hire Patty Wagstaffe to get to the head
of the Girl Scouts and kick major butt! GRIN wink

Just can't get over it; what a wonderful experience to deprive their
daughters, of. :0(

Sad, is what it is.............

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Old March 21st 05, 01:03 PM
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Well, I haven't read the manual, but they had a GS troop show up at a YE
flyout
over at Sky Manor last year.


I'm sure there are plenty of instances where leaders ignore (or are ignorant
of) the national rules. I tried to convince Mary to do the exact same
thing, but -- after careful consideration -- she decided to follow the rules
and fight from within.

She lost.

Bottom line: The Girl Scouts are simply too paranoid about liability to
ever sanction flying in personal airplanes. Face it, they've got a
veritable gold mine with those cookies and (unlike the Boy Scouts) have
millions to lose in any lawsuit.
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Old March 21st 05, 01:04 PM
Ron Natalie
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Kyle Boatright wrote:


We've faced a similar problem with Boy Scouts. They are not allowed to fly
in EXPERIMENTAL aircraft. Makes it tough when the EAA chapter is giving the
rides, and huge surprise!! most of the aircraft are Experimental. We've
started telling Scout groups that their members are welcome to come fly at
Young Eagle events, but not to do it as part of an official scout activity -
i.e. no uniform, etc.


The Boy Sprouts also require a million dollars of liability insurance and
require you to disclose all sorts of stuff (carrier, etc...) prior to allowing
you to fly them.

The school system here had a cow when Margy wanted to announce the YE events
at her school.
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Old March 21st 05, 02:40 PM
C J Campbell
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"Montblack" wrote in message
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Over the years I've seen a few Cub Scout / aviation posts on these
newsgroups. I do not recall seeing similar Girl Scout / aviation posts.


Girl Scouts aren't allowed to fly in private aircraft at all. Boy Scouts
have such severe restrictions ($1 million smooth liability, for example)
that they may as well be prohibited as well. Most youth organizations have
become so risk averse that you wonder how they function at all. The Boy
Scouts theoretically have the Aviation Explorers (for both boys and girls),
but try to actually organize a post....

Well, okay. The effect of many of these rules is that some leaders go ahead
and organize the prohibited activity anyway. They won't be covered by the
Scouts' insurance and assume all liability on their own. You could require
parents to sign a release acknowledging that the activity is prohibited by
the Scouting organization.

It isn't just aviation, you know. Restrictions on campfires, sharp objects,
camping, swimming, boating, travel by car, and everything else have pretty
much confined a lot of Scouting units to meeting in churches and either
playing basketball or discussing careers.


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Old March 21st 05, 09:45 PM
Scott Skylane
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C J Campbell wrote:

/snip/
It isn't just aviation, you know. Restrictions on campfires, sharp objects,
camping, swimming, boating, travel by car, and everything else have pretty
much confined a lot of Scouting units to meeting in churches and either
playing basketball or discussing careers.



Just not piloting careers.
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Old March 22nd 05, 01:10 AM
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"W P Dixon" wrote in message ...

As for the Boy Scouts, myself I can think of nothing better for a troop to do than to build an airplane together!

Patrick
student SPL
aircraft structural mech


They just won't be able to fly it then, based on what I'm hearing...


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Old March 22nd 05, 01:17 AM
Morgans
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"C J Campbell" wrote

The Boy
Scouts theoretically have the Aviation Explorers (for both boys and

girls),
but try to actually organize a post....


I am involved in an Aviation Explorer post. It works quite well. It also
works for the other 100 or so Aviation Explorers from all over the country,
that have their own camping base at Air Venture, and work lots of hours at
anything from crowd control, to parking airplanes in the homebuilt showplane
area, to directing taxiway intersections on 18-36. They all actually
managed to belong to an organized post.

Young Eagle rides are permitted. A simple form is all that is needed.
Also, besides going to Oshkosh and working, they work at our local warbirds
airshow, which is fairly big. We also go to at least two major airshows per
year, have ATC tours, museum tours, ski trips. Follow the rules, and it is
not tough, at all.

Form a post. There are good kids anywhere, needing leadership, to get into
aviation.
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Old March 22nd 05, 01:24 AM
Blueskies
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"Morgans" wrote in message ...


Young Eagle rides are permitted. A simple form is all that is needed.
Also, besides going to Oshkosh and working, they work at our local warbirds
airshow, which is fairly big. We also go to at least two major airshows per
year, have ATC tours, museum tours, ski trips. Follow the rules, and it is
not tough, at all.

Form a post. There are good kids anywhere, needing leadership, to get into
aviation.
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Jim in NC



Any truth to the statement that they cannot fly in 'experimental' aircraft?


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Old March 22nd 05, 01:42 AM
Morgans
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"Blueskies" wrote

Any truth to the statement that they cannot fly in 'experimental'

aircraft?

Absolutely correct.
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Jim in NC


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Old March 22nd 05, 04:00 AM
W P Dixon
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"Blueskies" wrote in message
om...


They just won't be able to fly it then, based on what I'm hearing...
Yep that's ashame, but maybe just maybe the build would tweak their
interest in something other than a video game; and actually learn something
useful. Maybe after they build it they could all just fly it through the
EAA , and leave the scouts out of that part.


Patrick
student SPL
aircraft structural mech

 




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