Airbus A 380 is rolling

"Chris" wrote in message
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"DrunkKlingon" wrote in message
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New Boeing 7E7 is more fuel efficient than the A380

With the high price of jet fuel and it going higher, I wonder if a big 4
engine gas guzzler like the 380 will be a big business mistake for
Airbus?

Airbus goes big but fuel thirsty
Boeing goes for fuel efficiency and high tech

In the long run, Boeing may have chosen the right business path
Another big problem is the limited number of airports this behemoth can
fly into

The 7E7 can go just about anywhere


The A380 is not meant to go anywhere. Its prime route will be Europe to
the Emirates and Asia. The 7E7 is more of a low density traffic plane. I
suspect that the A380 will be delivering their vast numbers into airports
where the 7E7 and the like can scurry around taking the passengers to
their final destinations.

Bit like Fed Ex really


Thought I read somewhere that Emirates Air already wants to rasie the
capacity of the A380...round about 800 pax, IIRC.

Jay B

Jay Beckman wrote:


Thought I read somewhere that Emirates Air already wants to rasie the

capacity of the A380...round about 800 pax, IIRC.

Good grief! Now you'll have to get to the airport 4 hrs. early. Can
you imagine how long it would take to check in and board 800 people and
their luggage?

John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180)

Can you say "WTO lawsuit"? No subsidies, no A350

"Thomas Borchert" wrote in message
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DrunkKlingon,

In the long run, Boeing may have chosen the right business path


Sorry to spoil the party, but can you say "Airbus 350"?

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

Not to mention the cost of paying for 800 deaths when the tail falls off the
thing...

"John Galban" wrote in message
oups.com...

Jay Beckman wrote:


Thought I read somewhere that Emirates Air already wants to rasie the

capacity of the A380...round about 800 pax, IIRC.

Good grief! Now you'll have to get to the airport 4 hrs. early. Can
you imagine how long it would take to check in and board 800 people and
their luggage?

John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180)

No 7x7 either.
-Kees

Dean Wilkinson wrote:
Not to mention the cost of paying for 800 deaths when the tail falls off
the
thing...

....or the rudder goes hard-over, or the engine goes into reverse thrust
while in cruise, or the plane simply explodes, ... and I'm not even
including DC/MD accidents.

Don't read any bias into my post - just trying to unbias the original post.

Hilton

New Boeing 7E7 is more fuel efficient than the A380

OK, here's my question. Aircraft manufacturers will do just about anything
to get 1% fuel savings. Boeing says the 787 will be 20% more efficient -
HOW? And why is everyone OK with it? I'm just curious, I'm not doubting
their claims, but sometimes if things sound too good to be true...

http://www.boeing.com/commercial/7e7/background.html

Thanks,

Hilton

Hilton wrote:

New Boeing 7E7 is more fuel efficient than the A380


OK, here's my question. Aircraft manufacturers will do just about anything
to get 1% fuel savings. Boeing says the 787 will be 20% more efficient -
HOW? And why is everyone OK with it? I'm just curious, I'm not doubting
their claims, but sometimes if things sound too good to be true...

http://www.boeing.com/commercial/7e7/background.html

Thanks,

Hilton


Hilton,

There's lies, damn lies, and statistics. Besides, Boeing says:
"The airplane will use 20 percent less fuel for comparable missions than
any similarly sized airplane."
Not exactly an apples to apples comparison with the 380.

Happy Flying!
Scott Skylane

Scott Skylane wrote:
Hilton wrote:

New Boeing 7E7 is more fuel efficient than the A380


OK, here's my question. Aircraft manufacturers will do just about
anything
to get 1% fuel savings. Boeing says the 787 will be 20% more
efficient -
HOW? And why is everyone OK with it? I'm just curious, I'm not
doubting
their claims, but sometimes if things sound too good to be true...

http://www.boeing.com/commercial/7e7/background.html

Thanks,

Hilton


Hilton,

There's lies, damn lies, and statistics. Besides, Boeing says:
"The airplane will use 20 percent less fuel for comparable missions than
any similarly sized airplane."
Not exactly an apples to apples comparison with the 380.

I never mentioned the A380 - I'm just curious how Boeing has reduced the
fuel consumption by a staggering 20% for a similarly sized airplane.

Hilton

On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 19:32:50 +0100, "Chris"
wrote:

The A380 is not meant to go anywhere. Its prime route will be Europe to the
Emirates and Asia. The 7E7 is more of a low density traffic plane. I suspect
that the A380 will be delivering their vast numbers into airports where the
7E7 and the like can scurry around taking the passengers to their final
destinations.

It's not a bad division of labor.

Airbus would be smart to quietly drop its 787 killer, just as Boeing
quietly dropped its 380 killer.

It's been about 25 years since I've flown (in) a 747. I don't ever
expect to fly a 380. No thanks! Since the airlines started to fill the
middle seats, commercial air travel has become hard labor, and I will
always pick the 250-seat plane over the 400-seat plane.

The worst thing that could happen to air travel is for either Airbus
or Boeing to go on the rocks. The present situation, where each is
concentrating on its own style of air travel (the bus vs. the limo) is
ideal.



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