Lake Winnepausaukee

Does anyone know why planes are landing on this lake? There are alot of
boaters and kayakers around, and it seems like a risky thing to do.

When the planes land on the lake, do Coast Guard regulations or the FAR's
apply?

"Skylune" wrote in message
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Does anyone know why planes are landing on this lake? There are alot of
boaters and kayakers around, and it seems like a risky thing to do.

When the planes land on the lake, do Coast Guard regulations or the FAR's
apply?


Floatplanes pretty much have the same right to operate on public waterways
as the white-trash powerboaters.

Mike
MU-2

Do you think the pilot would be upset if I took my formula 27 pc, which
weighs in at about 10,500 pounds and has twin 350s and created some nice
wake action for him to make the touchdowns more exciting?

I think I have right of way on the lake, but the FARs provide me no
guidance.

"Skylune" wrote in
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:

When the planes land on the lake, do Coast Guard regulations or
the FAR's apply?

Seaplanes are subject to the Coast Guard regulations during water
operations and FAR 91.115


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Skylune,

Once on the water, normal water right of way rules apply although some
(depending on location) speed limits are waived for the aircraft during
takeoff and landing.

From a safety standpoint, it seems that a trained pilot who has
undergone federal testing procedures on operation of her or his craft
both in the air and one the water (including planning and making
allowances for watercraft), just might be a little safer than those
operating watercraft and who haven't had to take any sort of formal
training or testing and about 30-40% of whom are drinking while
operating their watercraft.

Don't know why you'd want to discriminate in favor of aircraft when you
go create wakes, I'm sure the boaters would love it, too.

The FARS are irrelevant when a float plane is on the surface...the marine
rules of the road apply. They virtually mirror the FAR ROW rules, however.

According to the maritime rules of the road, a 10,000 ton tanker doing 16
knots is supposed to cede the right-of-way to a sailboat crossing from its
right...but common sense tells the sailboat operator that the tanker can't
possibly maneuver or stop quickly enough. Same thing is true of floatplanes
on the water...if they are accelerating for takeoff, they have the REAL
right-of-way, no matter where the crossing traffic is. Landing is much the
same thing...the pilot of the plane doesn't have many options once he is on
short final. It's only when a floatplane is taxiing on the water that the
maritime rules make sense.

We have a ton of seaplane operations on relatively small Lake Union in
Seattle (and on larger Lake Washington) and everyone seems to make the
necessary accomodations.

Bob Gardner
USCG (Ret)

"Skylune" wrote in message
lkaboutaviation.com...
Do you think the pilot would be upset if I took my formula 27 pc, which
weighs in at about 10,500 pounds and has twin 350s and created some nice
wake action for him to make the touchdowns more exciting?

I think I have right of way on the lake, but the FARs provide me no
guidance.

Do you think the pilot would be upset if I took my formula 27 pc, which
weighs in at about 10,500 pounds and has twin 350s and created some nice
wake action for him to make the touchdowns more exciting?

A pilot in a similar state of mind could make your boating equally exciting.

I'd venture that the same rules would apply to the boater whether he was
harassing a seaplane or a rowboat.

This is an important national security topic, despite what that moron Phil
Boyer says.

Despite what appears to be your desire to hook fish behind a boat, I'd
ask why you think this. Especially considering the potentially =huge=
amount of explosive that the interstates could carry directly to the
hearts of all our major cities via rented trucks.

Jose
--
"Never trust anything that can think for itself, if you can't see where
it keeps its brain."
(chapter 10 of book 3 - Harry Potter).
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

Well, actually in NH you do need a boating certificate to operate legally.
And boaters do get arrested for DWI. Lake Winni is heavily patrolled, so
drunken boaters will get caught.

But I get your point; drunken boaters are a hazard.

By the way, when a private pilot gets into his/her plane, who checks to
see if he/she is drunk or otherwise intoxicated? Two years ago, right
here in my little state of New Hampshire, a guy got drunk, had an
altercation with the cops, got a restraining order against him, and then
flew his plane from Nashua Airport into his wife's house! Its on the NTSB
website. One of my favorite stories.....

Skylune wrote:

By the way, when a private pilot gets into his/her plane, who checks to
see if he/she is drunk or otherwise intoxicated?

The same guy who checks to see if you're sober before you get into your car.

George Patterson
Why do men's hearts beat faster, knees get weak, throats become dry,
and they think irrationally when a woman wears leather clothing?
Because she smells like a new truck.

It hasn't become a major issue yet (despite the seaplane that flipped over
on the lake a few weeks back -- i think the NTSB blamed it on a wake), but
I have witnessed some seaplanes coming uncomfortably close to powerboaters
and even kayakers. How on earth can a pilot see if there is a kayaker
where he/she intends to land??

Its hard enough to see these kayakers when you on the water (although my
trusty Furuno usually picks them up), so i don't see how a landing plane
can possibly see them.