Why bother about light aircraft noise.

1. Using my actual name would obviously result in increased harassment.
This has been demonstrated by others who attempted to be "reasonable."

2. If you took the time to try to understand our point of view, you would
realize we spent ALOT of time trying to have a dialogue with the airport
manager, FAA, attended meetings with the airport board, etc..... This is
how I have come to understand the FAA Part 150 studies, aspects of the
FARs, etc. Plus, I flew a bit in a C-150 trainer years back before
deciding I didn't have sufficient time to devote to becoming proficient
enough to fly myself (and others) safely.

3. You, sir, are being presumptous when you say I am not being forced out
of my home. The racket on the weekends, especially, often starting at
5:15am!!!, has become worse and worse. When I see that damned idiot in
the Mooney fly by low and fast(or his buddy in the Bonanza) with the ear
piercing racket, it DOES drive us indoors.

4. These people are the turds in my punch. Why don't you pilots tell
them to cut the S__T???

And by the way, to compare me to the London Bombers demonstrates your
attitude and stupidity. My response: F___ YOU!

In article
outaviation.com,
"Skylune" wrote:

1. Using my actual name would obviously result in increased harassment.
This has been demonstrated by others who attempted to be "reasonable."

I doubt that you have *ever* attempted to be reasonable!



2. If you took the time to try to understand our point of view, you would
realize we spent ALOT of time trying to have a dialogue with the airport
manager, FAA, attended meetings with the airport board, etc..... This is
how I have come to understand the FAA Part 150 studies, aspects of the
FARs, etc. Plus, I flew a bit in a C-150 trainer years back before
deciding I didn't have sufficient time to devote to becoming proficient
enough to fly myself (and others) safely.

So now you want to deny that opportunity to others, who may have more
innate skills/aptitude than you.



3. You, sir, are being presumptous when you say I am not being forced out
of my home. The racket on the weekends, especially, often starting at
5:15am!!!, has become worse and worse. When I see that damned idiot in
the Mooney fly by low and fast(or his buddy in the Bonanza) with the ear
piercing racket, it DOES drive us indoors.

How many times does that happen? What are they really doing?

4. These people are the turds in my punch. Why don't you pilots tell
them to cut the S__T???

We often do. Why don't you quit being such an ass?

--
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"Skylune" wrote in
lkaboutaviation.com:

Snipola

Mind telling which airport you're have the problem with? I don't
recall you ever mentioning it.

Brian
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"Orval Fairbairn" wrote

Have you ever attempted reasonable discourse on the subject? IIRC, you
came to this newsgroup like the proverbial turd in the punchbowl,
looking to chastise everybody who flies.

Orval, killfile this turd. He isn't ever going to be worth it, nor is he a
threat. If he was, he wouldn't be talking about it here!
--
Jim in NC

Orville is an ass, to compare me to a terrorist.

You may not consider me a "threat," but your industry is the camel, and I
am another straw.... In fact, I am several straws, and as I have
mentioned, I (and others) have already killed our local airport's chance
of getting money from the city to fund CIPs by pointing out the airports
failure to implement the monitoring they agreed to in a very old Part 150
study. That, plus the fact that the city is having budget difficulties
and the airport authority is so stupid as to post in its own minutes that
it wants city funds so as not to "burden current users with the costs of
the CIP." This, at the same time the city is facing a budget crisis and
is eliminating athletic programs, etc. from the schools. I used the
authority's own words against them in my letter to the editor. Trust me,
Mr. Turd, the airport knows exactly who I am.

Go on with your superior attitude: You, sir, not I, are the fool, just
like the low-paid bumpkins who run the airport. When they had the recent
public meeting, the local flyboy in his dumb leather jacket came off as the
dumb "turd." Almost as dumb as some of you.....

And no, I will not name the airport. I must remain anynomous due to the
fact that I don't want my house buzzed, which is what happens when people
have the audacity to complain about irresponsible pilots.
People on this site have actually made these threat to other "trolls,"
such as myself. Reasonable dialogue/compromise with you people is
impossible. Therefore, I too will make life difficult politically,
legally, etc.

Orville is an ass, to compare me to a terrorist.

You may not consider me a "threat," but your industry is the camel, and I
am another straw.... In fact, I am several straws, and as I have
mentioned, I (and others) have already killed our local airport's chance
of getting money from the city to fund CIPs by pointing out the airports
failure to implement the monitoring they agreed to in a very old Part 150
study. That, plus the fact that the city is having budget difficulties
and the airport authority is so stupid as to post in its own minutes that
it wants city funds so as not to "burden current users with the costs of
the CIP."

Geez, where have we heard this before? Watch out for the AA going into
the
golf course "business" to "raise funds to be self-sufficient". And
going
into the "tech park" business, creating a "high tech" research park on
airport land, again to be "self-sufficient". Monopolizing fuel sales
is big too.

This, at the same time the city is facing a budget crisis and
is eliminating athletic programs, etc. from the schools.

But its only a few dollars per month, one starbucks per day. GA-santa
leaves all those presents that are "indirect" and "multiply".

And no, I will not name the airport. I must remain anynomous due to the
fact that I don't want my house buzzed, which is what happens when people
have the audacity to complain about irresponsible pilots.

Those laser view-graph pointers are fun, make sure you're outdoors when
installing new batteries. Practice pointing skills on distant objects.

People on this site have actually made these threat to other "trolls,"
such as myself. Reasonable dialogue/compromise with you people is
impossible. Therefore, I too will make life difficult politically,
legally, etc.

Rock on, SL.

JG

"Skylune" wrote in
lkaboutaviation.com:

Orville is an ass, to compare me to a terrorist.

You may not consider me a "threat," but your industry is the camel, and I
am another straw.... In fact, I am several straws, and as I have
mentioned, I (and others) have already killed our local airport's chance
of getting money from the city to fund CIPs by pointing out the airports
failure to implement the monitoring they agreed to in a very old Part 150
study. That, plus the fact that the city is having budget difficulties
and the airport authority is so stupid as to post in its own minutes that
it wants city funds so as not to "burden current users with the costs of
the CIP." This, at the same time the city is facing a budget crisis and
is eliminating athletic programs, etc. from the schools. I used the
authority's own words against them in my letter to the editor. Trust me,
Mr. Turd, the airport knows exactly who I am.

Go on with your superior attitude: You, sir, not I, are the fool, just
like the low-paid bumpkins who run the airport. When they had the recent
public meeting, the local flyboy in his dumb leather jacket came off as the
dumb "turd." Almost as dumb as some of you.....

And no, I will not name the airport. I must remain anynomous due to the
fact that I don't want my house buzzed, which is what happens when people
have the audacity to complain about irresponsible pilots.

And I thought *I* was paranoid....

How is revealing the airport going to cause YOUR house to be buzzed?
Unless you're the only resident near the airport, nobody is going to
know where the hell you live!

By asking which airport, some here in the group may be able see if
there can be something done about your noise problem from within the
aviation community. But since nobody knows what the problem airport
is, no one here can even look into it, much less do anything about it.

Effectively you are shooting yourself in the foot.


People on this site have actually made these threat to other "trolls,"
such as myself. Reasonable dialogue/compromise with you people is
impossible.

If some stranger comes up to you and starts acting like an ass from
word one, how are you going to react to them?

You need to look at yourself in a mirror and see things from the
perspective of the folks in this group. Some anonymous person comes
in here and starts ranting like a madman making accusations (some
criminal in nature) to everyone and you expect to be treated nicely?
It doesn't matter WHAT newsgroup you do this to.

Don't bother trying to be nice now. You've shot your reputation to
hell. You're only chance *MIGHT* be to stop posting and come back
with a new anonymous identity and act like a civilized person trying
to find a solution to a problem. If you manage to do that without
being recognized as the person you are now, you'll likely get a much
nicer response. But this is highly unlikely as in the short time I've
been reading this group, there's only been one person complaining
about airplane noise.

If you came to this group to seek help in your problem, you've gone
about it the wrong way. If you came to this group to antagonize and
cause problems, then you're be treated as the troll you are.

Therefore, I too will make life difficult politically,
legally, etc.

And it's possible to make your life on the internet hell as well,
because you've not done a very good job at being anonymous.

Brian
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Skywise wrote in
:

"Skylune" wrote in
lkaboutaviation.com:

Snipola
Therefore, I too will make life difficult politically,
legally, etc.

And it's possible to make your life on the internet hell as well,
because you've not done a very good job at being anonymous.

Yep. Took me about an hour of work using publicly available
information on the internet to find out who this is. No, I
won't post any personal information online. My point is, Skylune,
that you're not as anonymous as you think you are. So if I
can figure out who you are, others can too, and they may not be
as nice as I.

Anyway, if my research is corrent, the airport in question is
Boire Field (KASH) in Nashua, NH. The person in question resides
more than 5 miles from the runway.

I used to live 3 miles from a GA airport for several years,
under the outbound route where planes were generally full
throttle. Based on that experience, I can't see what the problem
is. Rarely if ever was an aircraft ever so low or loud as to
be a nuisance. The neighborhood lawnmower cars were louder.

I now live two miles from a military field. It's not very
active but nearly every day there's some F/A-18's or Harriers
landing. A couple weeks ago there were several CH-53's doing
pattern work, one day all three were in formation.

Skylune, do you know how loud a Harrier is when it's less than
a thousand feet over your head and not going any faster than
a C150?

Brian
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"Skywise" wrote in message ...
Skylune, do you know how loud a Harrier is when it's less than
a thousand feet over your head and not going any faster than
a C150?

When I was on the Nimitz, my berthing compartment was one deck below and on
the starboard side of the arresting gear... Rather noisy, but you soon get
to the point that you don't notice it...