I love Jim Campbell

Big John wrote in message . ..

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Shot went off (I was on 100% oxy) and I could smell Ozone. First
indication that I had gotten a good dose.

On AAC, yes until the USAF broke off in '47.

Your right, we used to do a lot of things that you can't do any more.
Can remember flying X country on the deck all the way. Highest would
be when pitched UP to make the tactical landing pattern.

Just read a paper back on Pappy Boyington. Took a lot of bloom off the
rose.

Big John,

What airplane were you flying durring durring the shot? You ever
worry about scooping a bird on those low-level runs?

Yeah, I heard about Pappy. Kinda explains why he was always drunk at
airshows, having to tell the same lies over and over again to little
kids all day. Sad. OTOH he did take nothing and turned it into
something. I'm told a true story was the Black Sheep and Tigers
recrossing paths resulted in a bad barfight in the pacific. My
original trunk outfit was started by those guys in Bud Conastogas
(ugly airplanes) in the 50's. (sorry I can't spell, too lazy) :-)

pac

On Sun, 10 Aug 2003 10:54:53 +0000, B2431 wrote:

On AAC, yes until the USAF broke off in '47.

AAC went out of business years before 1947. I think it turned into USAAF in
1941. I would have to look it up to be sure.

Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired

Nope, it is was 1947. Straight from the USAF Museum's web site:

http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/history/postwwii/nsa.htm

--
Kevin Horton RV-8 (finishing kit)
Ottawa, Canada
http://go.phpwebhosting.com/~khorton/rv8/

From that website it says:

"During WW II, the AAF was almost independent from the Army, "

Notice it says AAF, not AAC.

1907 - Aeronautical Section of the Signal Corps.
1914 - Aviation Section (Signal Corps).
1918 - United States Army Air Service
1926 - United States Army Air Corps
1941 - United States Army Air Forces
1947 - United States Air Force

Source: http://www.aafha.org/

Dan, U. S, Air Force, retired

On Sun, 10 Aug 2003 23:52:51 +0000, B2431 wrote:


On Sun, 10 Aug 2003 10:54:53 +0000, B2431 wrote:

On AAC, yes until the USAF broke off in '47.

AAC went out of business years before 1947. I think it turned into USAAF in
1941. I would have to look it up to be sure.

Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired

Nope, it is was 1947. Straight from the USAF Museum's web site:

http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/history/postwwii/nsa.htm

--
Kevin Horton RV-8 (finishing kit)
Ottawa, Canada
http://go.phpwebhosting.com/~khorton/rv8/

From that website it says:

"During WW II, the AAF was almost independent from the Army, "

Notice it says AAF, not AAC.

1907 - Aeronautical Section of the Signal Corps.
1914 - Aviation Section (Signal Corps).
1918 - United States Army Air Service
1926 - United States Army Air Corps
1941 - United States Army Air Forces
1947 - United States Air Force

Source: http://www.aafha.org/

Dan, U. S, Air Force, retired

Hmm. Yep, you are correct. I thought they went straight from the AAC to
the USAF. I'll practice those reading skills.

First mistake this year

--
Kevin Horton RV-8 (finishing kit)
Ottawa, Canada
http://go.phpwebhosting.com/~khorton/rv8/

pac

On 10 Aug 2003 06:27:24 -0700, (pac plyer) wrote:

Big John wrote in message . ..

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Shot went off (I was on 100% oxy) and I could smell Ozone. First
indication that I had gotten a good dose.

On AAC, yes until the USAF broke off in '47.

Quote

WWII Air Corps personnel had a strong sentimental attachment to their
branch. The Air Corps had an aura about it that seemed to set it apart
from other Army branches.Now sixty years later, many WWII servicemen
still proudly identify themselves as veterans of the Air Corps.
However -- although the Air Corps was their branch -- they actually
served and fought in the Army Air Forces.

Unquote


Your right, we used to do a lot of things that you can't do any more.
Can remember flying X country on the deck all the way. Highest would
be when pitched UP to make the tactical landing pattern.

Just read a paper back on Pappy Boyington. Took a lot of bloom off the
rose.

Big John,

What airplane were you flying durring during the shot?

F2H3 (Big Banshee) Navy all WX and Nuc strike bird. Got the name of
the shot but like everything else is in one pile around here or
another.................


You ever
worry about scooping a bird on those low-level runs?

Nope. We were invincible being that young and going to War.
Attitude was, live for today as tomorrow you may die. Flew the ragged
edge all the time (and buried our friends at regular intervals).

Yeah, I heard about Pappy. Kinda explains why he was always drunk at
airshows, having to tell the same lies over and over again to little
kids all day. Sad. OTOH he did take nothing and turned it into
something. I'm told a true story was the Black Sheep and Tigers
recrossing paths resulted in a bad barfight in the pacific. My
original trunk outfit was started by those guys in Bud Conastogas
(ugly airplanes) in the 50's. (sorry I can't spell, too lazy) :-)

Knew he drank but knew several 'good' combat leaders who drank heavy.
When they came back to the US and into the 'bean counter' environment
they were gradually eased out. Have seen it happen in other conflicts
since WWII. Good combat leaders didn't always follow the rule book.
They get results, not brownie points for shined shoes, etc.

Bud Conastogas????????????????? (Airplane, bar ???)


And the best

Big John

Dad

Quote

WWII Air Corps personnel had a strong sentimental attachment to their
branch. The Air Corps had an aura about it that seemed to set it apart
from other Army branches. Now, sixty years later, many WWII servicemen
still proudly identify themselves as veterans of the Air Corps.
However -- although the Air Corps was their branch -- they actually
served and fought in the Army Air Forces.

Unquote

Big John


On 10 Aug 2003 09:54:53 GMT, (B2431) wrote:

On AAC, yes until the USAF broke off in '47.

AAC went out of business years before 1947. I think it turned into USAAF in
1941. I would have to look it up to be sure.

Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired

First mistake this year

--
Kevin Horton RV-8 (finishing kit)
Ottawa, Canada

I make mistakes on a daily basis. I'll be happy to share.

Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired

On 7 Aug 2003 12:24:53 -0700, wrote:

In article , pac plyer says...

pac

Dang, did I get that one wrong. I was sure in the 90's that Bernie
was a sock puppet for Capt. Mooz since he always showed up to ruin RAH
everytime jokes were cracked about the great Captain/Doctor. Sorry
Bernie for misidentifing you. By the way, can't we all just gets
along? You originally a Kiwi? Some of my fondest layovers were in
Aukland, and one in Christchurch (chasing sheep.)

pacplyer
learning to live with trolls

Wasn't there a "Bertie the Bunyip" somewhere along there? Is that the same as
Bernie the Bunion?

Warren

Yeah there was. I think I'm confusing the two, but as I recall, they
were both low-octane trolls. I think that's kind of the troll thing
too: multiple identities that re-enforce each other. I dunno.... Like
Tony P. used to say: I speak for myself unless otherwise indicated;
one personality is enough thank you, .......or something like that.

pac - out

Pac, how do you know Tony? You never posted till a couple of years after he was
dead?

Tony hasn't been dead but one and one half year right now. What are
you getting at? Tony died in December a year and a half ago.

BWB

Hey Bill, I'm not seeing posts from the guy that pinged "How do you
know Tony?" until someone else responds to him and leaves part of the
post in there. Using Explorer 6.0.2800. No filters. What.. do I have
to switch to a different newsreader to see this guy?

Yes I'm new at posting, but not at lurking.

pacplyer

You got me man. I use Agent from Forte' You might want to download
it and try it. Works great once you set it up. It might be your ISP
too. They might be filtering some ISP's out for some reason. Are you
AOL? If you are, trash it and get a real ISP. AOL is unusable for
the usegroups. It's awkward and you can't see any of the threads or
follow the topics. Use Free Agent, it's 100 times better than what
AOL does.

Other than that, I don't know what your problem might be.

Pac, if you are Paul, call me, you have my number and I'll help you.
If you aren't Paul, then go get my phone number from Paul and call me.
I'll drive over there and buy you a beer.

BWB

Tony hasn't been dead but one and one half year right now. What are
you getting at? Tony died in December a year and a half ago.

BWB

I'm getting at the fact that your sock puppet isn't very good. Pac Plyer made
his first post anywhere May 25 2003. He didn't exist when Tony was alive but he
remember's Tony's sig line. His Directway IP puts him in Las Vegas. He knows
all about Zoom, but he never heard of you. Somehow he missed everything you
posted but he knows about Bass and White Tornado.

I'll spell it out. Pac Plyer is Bill Phillips.


Yeah, you are right AAAAAA. It's me.

Just keep digging. You have nothing else to do.

PacPlayer....I mean BWB

Bill...

I too use Forte and find it remarkably well laid out. However, I wonder if you
have the same problem with it that I do.

I can do email, websites, and be on chat for hours without a problem. However,
every so often (about once out of three runs through the list) the connection
will "hang". It will not disconnect, but if you exit Agent and attempt to use
the connection in another client, it is like the connection is not there. It
almost always happens at 3% compression in transmit.

As I said, I can be online for hours in any other program and it doesn't happen.
Only in Agent.

Any thoughts?

Jim


(Badwater Bill)
shared these priceless pearls of wisdom:

-You got me man. I use Agent from Forte'
Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor
http://www.rst-engr.com