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Old August 16th 05, 08:22 AM
Jay Beckman
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"Peter R." wrote in message
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This past Sunday I had the opportunity to take my two children to my and
their first NASCAR stock car race at Watkins Glen, NY (USA).

As we were sitting in the bleachers listening to the Canadian National
Anthem just prior to the start of the race, I looked up and saw a Cessna
172 circling about 1,000 feet above the 200,000 spectators', teams', and
vendors' heads.

Conditions were marginal VFR and the 172 made three passes before leaving
the airspace.

In thinking about the official TFR in place for the event, I wondered if
this C172 pilot received a waiver to loiter over the event. Aerial
photography, perhaps?

Oh, and on an aviation related note, a B-17 and a B-25 performed two in-
formation fly-overs about two hours before the start of the race. Now
that was a sight to see.

--
Peter


Peter,

I didn't notice the 172, but I was floored by the other flyby.

The two aircraft in formation were the Collings Foundation B-17
"Nine-O-Nine" and their B-24 "Dragon And His Tail."

They were enroute to Syracuse, NY for one of their "visits" (according to
the CF's website.)

FWIW...

Jay Beckman
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Technician, NASCAR on NBC/TNT


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Old August 16th 05, 01:39 PM
Peter R.
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Jay Beckman wrote:

I didn't notice the 172, but I was floored by the other flyby.


It appeared around the national anthems, fireworks, and Black Hawk fly-bys.
We were sitting in the Turn 10 bleachers when I saw the aircraft, which I
believe faces west.

The two aircraft in formation were the Collings Foundation B-17
"Nine-O-Nine" and their B-24 "Dragon And His Tail."


Thanks for the correction and the elaboration.

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They were enroute to Syracuse, NY for one of their "visits" (according
to the CF's website.)


Yep, for US$400 or so they were giving out rides in the B-17 up in
Syracuse. There were also tours of the aircraft.

Jay Beckman
PP-ASEL
Technician, NASCAR on NBC/TNT


You work for NBC/TNT? Very cool. Do you travel to all of the NASCAR
races?

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Peter
























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Old August 16th 05, 07:30 PM
Jay Beckman
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"Peter R." wrote in message
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Jay Beckman wrote:

I didn't notice the 172, but I was floored by the other flyby.


It appeared around the national anthems, fireworks, and Black Hawk
fly-bys.
We were sitting in the Turn 10 bleachers when I saw the aircraft, which I
believe faces west.


Ah, ok. We were firmly planted in the production truck at that point in the
proceedings.


You work for NBC/TNT? Very cool. Do you travel to all of the NASCAR
races?

--
Peter


As a matter of fact, I do. I work the first half for FOX and the second
half for NBC.

Jay


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Old August 16th 05, 09:42 PM
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Gotta love that Hi-Def!

Won some money gambling in Feb, and bought a Hi Def TV with it. Already had
the surround sound. Now I watch nascar every Sunday with it.

Dave

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"Peter R." wrote in message
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Jay Beckman wrote:

I didn't notice the 172, but I was floored by the other flyby.


It appeared around the national anthems, fireworks, and Black Hawk
fly-bys.
We were sitting in the Turn 10 bleachers when I saw the aircraft, which I
believe faces west.


Ah, ok. We were firmly planted in the production truck at that point in
the proceedings.


You work for NBC/TNT? Very cool. Do you travel to all of the NASCAR
races?

--
Peter


As a matter of fact, I do. I work the first half for FOX and the second
half for NBC.

Jay



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Old August 16th 05, 09:53 PM
Robert M. Gary
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I don't know (or care) much about radios other than wanting to receive
Rush Limbaugh in the AM. All I know of the CAP radio network is what I
learned in Level I CAP class. I know I had similar questions when that
statement was made and several radio guys (new CAP guys) made the case
that the CAP network was truely unique.

-Robert

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Old August 16th 05, 11:46 PM
Jay Beckman
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"Dave" wrote in message
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Gotta love that Hi-Def!

Won some money gambling in Feb, and bought a Hi Def TV with it. Already
had the surround sound. Now I watch nascar every Sunday with it.

Dave


Nice to know you're watching, thanks.

Jay


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Old August 17th 05, 12:12 AM
Mike Weller
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On 16 Aug 2005 13:53:29 -0700, "Robert M. Gary"
wrote:

I don't know (or care) much about radios other than wanting to receive
Rush Limbaugh in the AM.


This has to be troll, but I'll bite. The last time I heard Rush on
the radio he bragged that he had about a million listeners per day.
That made him gush with pride that that was five million per week.

All I know of the CAP radio network is what I
learned in Level I CAP class. I know I had similar questions when that
statement was made and several radio guys (new CAP guys) made the case
that the CAP network was truely unique.


OK, I'll bite again. The CAP network must be truely (sic) unique.

Tell me more. I'm a pilot and a radio guy.

Mike Weller



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Old August 17th 05, 12:18 AM
Robert M. Gary
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Awesome! Check out www.cap.gov We need lots of people, especially
pilots and radio guys. I'm sure the radio guys with your local squadron
would love to work with you to get you certified with CAP! Personally,
I'm not a radio guy so I'm not the best person to discuss the claim but
you won't have any trouble finding CAP members who are! We look forward
to seeing new faces!!

-Robert, CFI

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Old August 17th 05, 12:23 AM
Robert M. Gary
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Mike,
Here is a bit more information for you...
http://level2.cap.gov/index.cfm?nodeID=5236
I also found an email address for Malcolm Kyser, Chief of
Communications; oversees CAP radio nets and frequencies
I'm sure he can answer all your questions! We hope to see you at a
meeting!! Sounds like you have some skill sets we could really use.

-Robert

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Old August 17th 05, 04:15 AM
Jose
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The last time I heard Rush on
the radio he bragged that he had about a million listeners per day.
That made him gush with pride that that was five million per week.


There are two hundred million people in the US. In less than a year,
everyone will have heard of him and stopped listening.

g Jose
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except there's no God, and there's no dice. And maybe there's no universe.
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